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Old 01-16-2017, 12:29 PM   #15
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Why is it called "common sense", when it is so rare?
As my friend Harlan always says, if common sense was really common, everybody would have some. Those old Coleman catalytic jobs would give you a headache or worse in a short time about any place they were used. We used to use one in the topper. We'd fire it off for awhile before bedtime and get things warm, then pull it out and cover the element and leave it outside for the night.
Four guys from my hometown died years ago in a class C when the exhaust got plugged on their furnace. They were sleeping at the time. I can't quite remember the details, think a piece of tin came loose in the ducting. Good reason to check things over.
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:44 PM   #16
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Why is it called "common sense", when it is so rare?
Good point! but since this is only one reported case, maybe most folks still have a measure of common sense?
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Old 01-16-2017, 03:37 PM   #17
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Good point! but since this is only one reported case, maybe most folks still have a measure of common sense?

I agree with you Floyd, but not understanding the danger due to ignorance (not stupidity, which cannot be fixed, whereas ignorance can be addressed by education), and common sense sometimes does not come into play when knowledge is absent. Should we talk at Scamp Camp, remind me to tell you my experience where common sense was lacking!


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Old 01-16-2017, 04:06 PM   #18
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Should we talk at Scamp Camp, remind me to tell you my experience where common sense was lacking!
That would be a great fireside experience......we all have stories to tell .
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That would be a great fireside experience......we all have stories to tell .

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My story involves a teenager who ended up being valedictorian of his high school's graduating class, yet displayed a total lack of logic and common sense.


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My story involves a teenager who ended up being valedictorian of his high school's graduating class, yet displayed a total lack of logic and common sense.

That sounds like my ex brother in law. We've had numerous fireside stories from past "deeds", where the logic and common sense were not considered. Fortunately no one ever died.
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I think that the term "common sense" is a misnomer, and that all sense is learned (either poorly or well, through observation, trial-and-error, etc.) during life.
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A favorite quote from Will Rogers" Good judgement comes from experience and a lot of that comes from bad judgement"


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Old 01-18-2017, 03:33 AM   #23
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Some people have good sense and bad judgement:
I know a person in his position as Fire Chief and should have common sense but there is no way I would stay in his camper due to his lack of good judgement in his application of batteries inside, unvented, to run an inverter, and his using the oven to heat the trailer on cold winter nights.
NOT GOOD !
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That's the first time I've heard that, Carl. Thanks for the information. My 2008 came with nothing. What detectors do they supply?
My 2015 Scamp model came with single battery operated CO alarm mounted at front of dinette seat near the floor.

I added smoke and propane detector / alarms. The former battery operated and the later hardwired to the 12 volt system in the Scamp.

One thing I noticed about (properly) using my Wave heater (on the few occasions where I did use it). Turns out I took MUCH more of a risk driving to and from the campground then I did by using the heater.
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Turns out I took MUCH more of a risk driving to and from the campground then I did by using the heater.
That information will be of great comfort to the family and friends of the deceased . Hopefully it will lighten their burden !
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That information will be of great comfort to the family and friends of the deceased . Hopefully it will lighten their burden !
If you are talking about the news report that started this thread.. there is no connection as far as we know. Since we know next to nothing about the circumstances in that case, no correlation was stated or implied in my statement.
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I tried the CO and smoke detectors, however, I smoke cigars and cook a lot in the Scamp so they did not work out so well. Always going off
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I tried the CO and smoke detectors, however, I smoke cigars and cook a lot in the Scamp so they did not work out so well. Always going off
Rather than eliminate the protection, I would be inclined to pop out the batteries as needed during the day and pop them back in at night. That works if they are not hard-wired, of course.

EDIT- ...but not the CO detector, even during the day, if I were running an unvented propane heater! CO doesn't give you any warning.

We get some false alarms, too. Doesn't take much in such a small space, and we don't cook or smoke inside.
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