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Old 10-30-2014, 10:05 PM   #71
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LOL. No bathroom. That would be a fun choice!

A better comparison to the current Oliver is the Escape 21 anyways. If you like the wood interior, that may be a better option for you.
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Old 10-30-2014, 10:12 PM   #72
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17' Escape with bath and permanent bed has a two-person dinette. The 19' has the 4-person dinette and queen and bath.

The Oliver looks great. Different people have different considerations and that is a common one.
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:21 PM   #73
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Three months to build a trailer? No wonder Ollies cost more if they are that inefficient at manufacturing.
These are small companies, some can only build a few hundred trailers a year, most even fewer.
My Scamp Deluxe was ordered in October and delivered the following June.
They are a little faster now that they have doubled their output.


Back when you could custom order a car, it took an average of six weeks from order to delivery. That's with an assembly line which could produce a car every couple of minutes!
Good things come to those who wait!
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Old 10-31-2014, 12:12 AM   #74
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I think they mean the actual build time, Floyd, three months to build an Oliver. I think an Escape takes a month or so but if you order one now, you will have to wait nearly a year to get it.

Olivers are obviously in their own class with hardly any being made and they take their time with them. With Steve's list, no wonder, but everyone would not have that kind of list. There have been some Escape buyers with super customization. Takes more time and effort and cost.

If Burros and U-Hauls are double hull, what makes the Olivers so heavy? Perhaps it has nothing to do with the hulls but all of the other components instead.

Your Oliver looks fantastic, trumpetguy.
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:56 AM   #75
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Three months to build a trailer? No wonder Ollies cost more if they are that inefficient at manufacturing.
lol...your a funny man Charlie!
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Old 10-31-2014, 09:25 AM   #76
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Hi Floyd, re; your comment "These are small companies, some can only build a few hundred trailers a year, most even fewer", here is a recent photo from the Oliver factory.
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lol...your a funny man Charlie!
Actually I spent almost 40 years as a Manufacturing Engineer.....
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Old 10-31-2014, 09:49 AM   #78
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The Oliver factory is in a very large industrial building, in the neighborhood of five acres under one roof. Here is a look at a different part of the line.
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Old 10-31-2014, 10:02 AM   #79
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Very cool. Looks like they roll them down to "stations" for various stages of assembly.
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Hi Floyd, re; your comment "These are small companies, some can only build a few hundred trailers a year, most even fewer", here is a recent photo from the Oliver factory.
so what is the actual annual build capacity for Oliver?
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Hi Floyd, I would have to refer you to someone like Robert. I have been there quite a bit, but only during the course of readying a unit to take out on the road to show. We put on over 10k miles along the Gulf and East coast states.
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With the Oliver you get two dinettes. One can be left as a bed while the other is left for dining. As these are mostly couples buying these size trailers, that is a fine setup.

^^^This^^^ Mostly two people is what I am thinking. I do understand families buy these also but personally I was shopping for a two person trailer when I bought our Scamp. And I will use the same criteria if I shop for another egg.
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The primary problem I see with a layout that has a permanent bed and a large dinnette (essentially a 4 berth trailer) is, to accomodate traveling with 4 people, where does all their stuff go? There is generally not room for food or clothing for that many people in a small trailer. You don't have the hanging closet space for sure, and 4 people have to share a very tiny bathroom and shower. Where do their damp towels go?

Now if your intent is to sleep 2, but have dining for 4, that is a different matter. But if you are going to have a "dinner party", you can always just tear down the bed and have at it.

The Oliver layouts are just that - sleeping for two, dining for 4. The space that would go to a permanent bed is traded off for a large closet, larger bathroom and many cabinets (with pantry), including dedicated outside storage compartment and a battery bay. Having ample storage compartments, large overhead cabinets, and large hanging closet provides alot of the appeal of this layout. You can conceivably sleep three (maybe a visiting grandchild), but mostly this is just a 2 person coach.
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The primary problem I see with a layout that has a permanent bed and a large dinnette (essentially a 4 berth trailer) is, to accomodate traveling with 4 people, where does all their stuff go? There is generally not room for food or clothing for that many people in a small trailer. You don't have the hanging closet space for sure, and 4 people have to share a very tiny bathroom and shower. Where do their damp towels go?

Now if your intent is to sleep 2, but have dining for 4, that is a different matter. But if you are going to have a "dinner party", you can always just tear down the bed and have at it.

The Oliver layouts are just that - sleeping for two, dining for 4. The space that would go to a permanent bed is traded off for a large closet, larger bathroom and many cabinets (with pantry), including dedicated outside storage compartment and a battery bay. Having ample storage compartments, large overhead cabinets, and large hanging closet provides alot of the appeal of this layout. You can conceivably sleep three (maybe a visiting grandchild), but mostly this is just a 2 person coach.
just a little perspective...
Below is a "small trailer" which has sleeping for two and dining for four ...
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