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Old 04-15-2007, 09:27 PM   #1
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The USFS campground we were in this weekend charged for both car and trailer.

Yep, they believed that a single site with a towed trailer and a car = 2 vehicles.

This place is so cheap to start with, it wasn't that big a deal, but I asked them to check as I had never been charged for the trailer.. my understanding is 1 car/truck/ and a towed vehicle such as a trailer count as one.

They said "Well, it's only one if you stay hitched up"

These hosts were very nice and accomidating to our small group and have been very nice to me on my own in the past, so, once again, I didn't push the issue other than asking them to confirm that.

They did ask thier boss who said.. "She is used to State sites.. the USFS sites it's 2". NOT in any other USFS campground I have been in...



Anyone else been charged extra for the trailer in a single?
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:58 PM   #2
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I've never had an extra vehicle charge on a truck/trailer rig in ANY gummint site (USFS, NP/NM, Fish-wildlife, BLM, COE, etc.) but sometimes the camp hosts are not as well-informed as they might be (Two cars is usually not the same as a car and trailer) -- However, many of the gummint CGs are going to contractors to run them and it's possible that different rules have been negotiated -- The hosts should have some sort of rule book prepared by the local office for them...
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Old 04-15-2007, 10:07 PM   #3
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this is what the handout says:

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a SINGLE UNIT is limited to 8 people and 1 vehicle. a single additional vehicle is allowed at a $3 additional fee
Pretty ambigous.

Thier bosses reasoning is that it has a plate.
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Old 04-16-2007, 07:48 AM   #4
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I agree with Pete. A car/truck and camp trailer is one unit. I've been able to camp in all 49 continental states over the last 42 years and have never been charged extra for trailer. Sounds fishy to me. I'm going to be near the US Forest office today, I going in to find out what they say. Mike-B
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I'd be curious to hear the final answer on this one too, because I've heard similar confusions as well. The rule of thumb seems to be if it has a license plate on it, it counts as a 'vehicle', but it seems to vary from campground to campground, and from state to county to federal... So some good honest research with a good honest answer is HEARTILY encouraged! hehe
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Old 04-16-2007, 08:45 AM   #6
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Google has not been a friend on this one. The only thing I could find was Utah State parks DO specifically call a car AND trailer 2 vehicles, unless they remain coupled.

I don't think they are being fishy, they are just rule interpretation challenged. They are using strict "logic" over practical logic.
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Vehicle is a general term meaning a device or structure for transporting persons or things; a conveyance. A motor vehicle, obviously has to have some sort of propulsion. I think the camp hosts are correct if the term "vehicle" is used. Whether it's fair or not is another story. I suppose folks in tents are getting off 1/2 price in comparison.

I'll be curious to hear what Mike-B finds out.
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Old 04-16-2007, 09:15 AM   #8
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So, I go to my favorite reservation system, ReserveAmerica.com, and find the following info on a campsite in my favorite campground:


Site Details:

* Site Reserve Type:Site Specific
* Site Type:Fam Rv/Trailer Sgl
* Check-in:2:00 pm
* Check-out:1:00 pm
* Stay Type:Overnight
* Min. # of Peoplemin: 1, max: 8)
* Max. # of Vehicle:1
* Max. Vehicle Length:40
* Driveway Surface:Gravel
* Driveway Entry:Back-In
* Shade:Partial



Now, of course when we arrive at this campsite, they don't make us park our car elsewhere (nor do they make us leave our vehicle and trailer hitched up), even though the maximum number of vehicles is 1.

It's true there are other campgrounds that count the car as one vehicle and the trailer as one vehicle; but at those campgrounds, the number of vehicles allowed for night is 2. (I am thinking this is Corps of Engineers parks, but it might be Texas State Parks.)

That's my $0.02.
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Trailer use more of the resources, and thats what I used to only question the rule, not necessarily complain about it.

I filled my tank 3 times when I was there over the course of a week, and dumped 5 gallons of grey down the toilet almost daily, flushing all the way.

BUT.. I wasn't taking up any more space than anyone else

I only stay hitched if I am positive I will not need the car. Since I was commuting to work, this was not an option.
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Maaaaan -- and here I thought the maximum tow capacity of my TV and the type of tire to use was the "quantum physics" of Egg-Rv'n -- now I have to add is my trailer a vehicle or not to the list.
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So a great big ole motorhome counts as one even though they put even more strain on their surroundings? Seems unfair as only trailers and fifth wheels are paying extra.
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I've camped all over the country in USFS campgrounds and never had to pay extra for the trailer. "Extra vehicle" has in the past meant if you had another motor vehicle. Maybe they changed their definitions. Sure doesn't sound right though.
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Okay, here's the "site detail" from a favorite Corps of Engineers park:


Site Details

* Site Reserve Type:Nonspecific
* Site Type:Fam Sta Sgl Elec Wat
* Check-in:3:00 pm
* Check-out:2:00 pm
* Stay Type:Overnight
* Min. # of Peoplemin: 1, max: 8)
* Max. # of Vehicle:2
* Max. Vehicle Length:55

* Electric Hook-up:Yes
* Water Hook-up:Yes
* Driveway Surface:Paved
* Driveway Entry:Back-In
* Shade:Y


At this place I know they count the trailer as a vehicle, but, even so, it's included in the price of the campsite... Ditto for a Mo-Home with "dinghy."

Or, at least it was the last time I was there... Hmmmm
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Gotta say this, even though it's a bit off-topic: COE sites are some of the best in the country. With a Golden Age pass they are a wonderful bargain— right down to clean rest rooms, showers, and laundry facilities. They spoil a boondocker outrageously!
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