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Old 10-03-2015, 05:49 PM   #127
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At first I saw this whole story as a minor one too - that was, until I saw the worldwide effect it had, and the plummeting stock and company valuations that resulted. The details are less important here than the effect it had. I wouldn't want to be one of the people in the board room right now trying to stop the bleeding.


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Old 10-03-2015, 06:11 PM   #128
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For comparison, I like to think that Ford took the high ground when they discontinued production of their very popular 7.3L PowerStroke light truck diesel engine in 2003 because they couldn't alter it enough to meet newly implemented stricter U.S. emission standards. Rather than cheat, their response was to engineer what turned out to be a series of new generation diesel engines (6.0L, 6.4L) until they finally came up with one that was both durable and could meet the new emission standards (6.7L). They took a beating on customer satisfaction because of other problems with the 6.0L and 6.4L engines, but Ford owners now seem to be happy campers with the 6.7L diesel engine.

If interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Power_Stroke_engine

Ford also now offers a 3.2L diesel option in their new Transit with 185 HP and 350 ft lb torque. I would think that could make the little Transit a pretty decent tow vehicle for a fiberglass camper for those who like to tow with diesel power.
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Old 10-03-2015, 10:58 PM   #129
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I found this on Fazebook. Someone deserves credit but I don't know who.

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Old 10-16-2015, 02:26 PM   #130
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This article, reporting on some testing by CR on both older and newer versions of the TDI engine, appears to give some indication of possible losses in power and fuel economy when the defeat mode is removed in normal driving. The testing reflects software-only fixes, but hardware changes may be part of the eventual recall for older TDIs.

'Cheat Mode' In VW Diesels: Tests Show It Boosts Performance, MPG

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"To use its ‘safe’ emissions-test mode and prevent the vehicle from cycling over to its dirtier mode, the testers then disconnected some sensors that might tell the computer it was off a test machine and in normal driving conditions. For the 2011 VW Jetta SportWagen TDI, with its older EA189 version of the 2.0-liter turbo-diesel four-cylinder engine, performance from 0-60 mph dropped from 9.9 seconds to 10.5 seconds, while fuel economy in a highway test cycle dropped from 50 mpg to 46 mpg. Yet for the 2015 model, with its newer EA288 version of the 2.0-liter engine, fitted with a Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) exhaust-aftertreatment system, there was only a tenth of a second difference in acceleration, while fuel economy dropped from 53 mpg to 50 mpg."
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Old 10-16-2015, 02:31 PM   #131
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Apparently VWofA has turned to an American company for a solution for the U.S. versions. How's that for a black-gloved slap in the face of German Engineering.... LOL
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What does this have to do with fiberglass RV's. You all need to give this VW stuff a rest and leave it to the political forums.
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What does this have to do with fiberglass RV's. You all need to give this VW stuff a rest and leave it to the political forums.
As the one who started all this nonsense, I am sincerely sorry it is bothering you. Because a number of forum members do tow with this engine, and because small diesels seem to be in the midst of a minor comeback in the NA market and typically draw interest from the towing community, I felt it was relevant in a "General Chat" sort of way. I have deliberately avoided politicizing the conversation by passing judgments on the current administration or the EPA's role in this situation or by turning it into a debate between environmentalists and large corporations. Instead I have tried to focus on the facts, the technical details, and the ramifications for owners. Of course, I can only speak for myself, not for the many who have participated along the way.

If the moderators allow this thread to remain open as the situation evolves, you may want to go to the "Thread Tools" in the blue bar above the first post on this page and select "Ignore This Thread." I've done that myself on a couple of occasions.
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Old 10-16-2015, 06:07 PM   #134
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Hmmmm.. two posts in almost two weeks. Not exactly crowding out the band width.
But I know how some threads tend to irritate some folks. I am sure that lots of mine (maybe all by some readers) are put in the "Ignore this Thread" trashcan..... lol
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