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Old 01-24-2006, 12:03 AM   #1
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Out the fires, the Phoenix. Maybe that should be the name for a new model, once Scamp rebuilds its factory and starts anew. I'm quite happy with my 20-year-old Scamp 16, so there's little I would change. But this is the ideal opportunity for any basic or detail changes to be considered, isn't it? Let's save the company's market research budget and volunteer our own ideas.

I've already seen that beginning, with some talk about replacing the curved door with a straight, Casita-style one. Call me a traditionalist on that one. Yes, I know, I have a 1/4-inch gap at the bottom of mine, too, but that's easy to weather seal. And how tight do you want a trailer to be? Usually you're in nice weather or you're running a heater, when ventilation is demanded. The curved door completes the retro/futuro/aero motif of these trailers, and effectively adds headroom, too. A straight door wouldn't be the same, IMHO.

There is one change I'd enjoy. If I lived within a days' drive of the factory, I might have had them do it already. I'm finding a 48" bed is just too narrow for two not-so-narrow sleepers. I'd get by with a little less countertop, though. So by narrowing the cabinets by 6-10 inches and giving that space to the bed/dinette, I'd be happier. This change would be much simpler than adding overall length to the 16', and if they did that, the added weight would put it out of my league anyway.

What other ideas do you have to offer?
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Old 01-24-2006, 05:08 AM   #2
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My suggestion is for everyone to say how much they like the existing Scamp layouts and how they don't want to see any changes. Scamp want to get back into production as soon as possible and making new moulds from existing trailer parts is the quickest way to do that - it still leaves a lot of work to do, but anything else needs more.

To make new designs would add, I would estimate, two months to the time needed before production can restart and that is assuming the new design was ready right now. That's two months when presumably most of the folks that work at Scamp don't get paid.....

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Old 01-24-2006, 06:30 AM   #3
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John, they've already done that, at least in the deluxe models. The bed in my '02 is 54" wide... and the stove hangs over the bed a few inches. And I'm with Andrew. The current designs are what makes Scamp a Scamp. There are really only so many variations on a theme that you can do in 16' single shell design, and Scamp has pretty well covered them over the years, and IMHO, they do it very well. I'm impressed with the fit and finish of my '02. The layout is perfect for me, and the amenities are just right. Other than start out with a new design "box" I don't know what else they could do differently. Even the "new design box" trailers (Escape, for example) don't have anything revolutionary in floorplan or features. There are only so many ways to orient a couch, dinette, bath, & kitchen... ah... I forgot ONE thing... they COULD use a different awning!

I wish them all the best at Backus and hope that their reconstruction goes as quickly as they hope, with a minimum of problems.

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Old 01-24-2006, 07:58 AM   #4
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RE: replacing the curved door with a straight, Casita-style one

Isn't it (still) only the 17 ft. Casitas that have the straight door? Don't the 13s and 16s (still) have curved, aircraft-style doors?

Anybody bought a Casita lately? (I know, I know. To answer that one, we really should start a new topic.)
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Old 01-24-2006, 08:49 AM   #5
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I ditto what Andrew and others have said about no changes. The main thing is to get going again; not worry about redesign. GO SCAMP! You have a great product and a great company!

Mary, I agree with you. I do believe the 13/16 footers still have the curved doors. I do know that the hinges are different on the Casita and I wonder if that has helped in keeping the door in shape. My '89 had a slight gap at the bottom when I bought it, but the gasket was just worn out.
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Old 01-24-2006, 09:14 AM   #6
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Double axle on the 5th wheel ala Merle Lilly. Those of us that saw his setup at the Oregon Gathering last year were mighty impressed. Merle tugged the 5th wheel before and after adding the second axle and he described the difference in towing as tremendous.
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Old 01-24-2006, 08:24 PM   #7
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But this is the ideal opportunity for any basic or detail changes to be considered, isn't it?

What other ideas do you have to offer?
I seem to remember that the original genesis of the Casita brand was a split in the Eveland family (or maybe an employee?) who wanted to make design changes?

My suggestion might be a new 5th-wheel design to complement the one based on the 16 footer. [b]How about a 13 foot base for a 5th-wheel?

Why did they choose the 16' model to extend to a 5th-wheel?
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Old 01-25-2006, 07:09 AM   #8
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Why did they choose the 16' model to extend to a 5th-wheel?
I would think the reasoning behind the 16 footer to 5th wheel has to do with amenities and space. Typically those who are looking to own a 5th wheel want a larger trailer all the way around. More cabinets, larger bathroom, etc. Pretty hard to get all that when starting with a 13 footer.
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Old 01-25-2006, 09:30 AM   #9
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The one modification that I would make, is a new scamp model with a 13' trailer in front, and a deck behind to haul motorcyles or atv's.
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Old 01-25-2006, 09:44 AM   #10
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Maybe they could re-tool this time to include an 18 footer at a 13 footer price!?
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Old 01-25-2006, 02:04 PM   #11
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I can only comment on the 13 ft style....... Bigger dinette/bed. Whack the mold in "half" and add 8 to 12". Other than that I can't think of anything else.
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Old 01-25-2006, 10:17 PM   #12
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I have a simple change. The table needs to be narrower in the front so us not so skinny people can slide in to those dinette seats. I was shocked that I could not fit.
I may as well make a bed out of that table area even though I really want a table there.
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Old 01-25-2006, 10:59 PM   #13
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Have you actually ever been inside one of those goofy 1/2 trailers 1/2 outside toy haulers? You have to go outside to change your mind!

I think a 5th wheel "13" would be great. Us "Non Family" types would like a little more room options without going to the bigger trailers.

A bed right behind and over the gaucho is a great way to keep all the charm of a 13 without the pain of setting up a bed everynite.

sigh.. guess I will just have to save my pennies for the BIGFOOT 17!!!!
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