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Old 02-04-2013, 10:23 AM   #15
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Our original small trailer concern was bed width because we always slept in a queen. For us it has not turned out to be an issue. We sleep well in our dinette sized bed.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:26 AM   #16
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My Escape 17B weighs in at 3010 lbs and 340 lbs hitch weight with many options & loaded for a long trip. It meets all your needs except the 6'-2" interior height. I'm 6' & when wearing boots, my hair (what little is left) brushes the AC...
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:42 AM   #17
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When I was looking bed size is important. Most of the time, Im alone and could sleep easily on a 36" wide bed and be fine... but if I get lucky (which is usually the plan lol) I would much prefer a queen sized bed to a less then full sized one.

Another thing that Im looking into is Fiberglass/plastic propane tank

So if you find a trailer set up with a single bottle of propane, dont sweat it... buy the 20 or 25lb ($100 to 135.00)fiberglass tank and use that and you can visually see how much fuel you have in it before heading out for the weekend and save yourself about 45lbs off your tongue weight if you had 2 steel 20lb tanks.

Lack of an awning shouldn't be a deal breaker. You could spend the big bucks and have a comercial unit installed, or go with a vintage style for typically under $300 with the colours you wan in it! That's what Im going for.

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Old 02-04-2013, 11:49 AM   #18
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My Escape 17B weighs in at 3010 lbs and 340 lbs hitch weight with many options & loaded for a long trip. It meets all your needs except the 6'-2" interior height. I'm 6' & when wearing boots, my hair (what little is left) brushes the AC...
That is good information. So, maybe I won't have to invest in foam bumpers. Do your boots have heavy duty soles?

What year is your rig?
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:56 AM   #19
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I have a Scamp 13.. But I had a chance to poke around in a Lil Snoozy, and I have to say that it is WAY nicer inside. Yes, it is a bit bigger and heavier, but the impression is that it is about four times as big inside. It also has WAY more cabinet/counter space, a WAY bigger bed, and a bathroom, which mine does not. It seems to be built better, and is more customizable than a Scamp. If all goes well, Lil Snoozy will be my next camper.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:07 PM   #20
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You can't "have it all" on 14' long (inside a 17 footer) X 7' wide platform. You won't have most of it on a 10' X 7' footprint. Get what is indepensable imo even for short term camping: a bed of sufficient length AND width (75" X 56" is just about the minimum for two to sleep in comfort and 80" long is better). If air mattresses and bags were a good fit with aging bodies, many of us would never have considered a trailer. You shouldn't be in the darn thing all day long and if you are you may as well stay at home. With that said, I like enuf galley counter that I don't have to set the frypan on the floor and wife and I like a cozy dinette and a handy loo even if we try to avoid using it. My view is that there are NO ideal solutions to the problem of stacking more than two people and two dogs or more than three adults or two adults and two children in a 16' trailer. Solos with experience are sometimes a snug fit in a 13' and enjoy it.

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Old 02-04-2013, 01:03 PM   #21
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I measured my Trillium this morning- it's 6'1" in the walkin' around area. Which, I might add, is less than ten square feet, given interior fixtures etc. (Whence our "one person walks around at a time" rule).

Per "fiberglass sandwich" mentioned earlier:

I can't speak to other brands or even the current version of my own, but in the case of my Trillium it has a complete full-circumference fiberglass shell. The floor is a sheet of marine plywood, also covered with the same fiberglass that makes up the rest of the trailer. It was formed at the same time/as part of the interior fixtures and is continuous except for what seems to be a universal 1/2 inch "gap" right in front of the kitchen counter. Other than that strange phenom, the only place in my unit where the plywood is visible is at the extreme front under the bench.

Since the belly's curved while the plywood floor is flat, I think there's a bit of an airgap down there. In fact, I've idly speculated as to whether it isn't big enough for some kind of a "bladder" for graywater....

The other places there's plywood is inside the formed window cutout edges, put there to provide something for the screws to bite into, I guess. Many Trilliums of this vintage will show varying degrees of rot in those places- some may require widow removal/ replacement of the wood.

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Old 02-04-2013, 01:31 PM   #22
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Francesca, The floor on my 4500 is flat, except for the fresh water tank and outside the frame, where there are what I call pontoons. They form low spots on the outside that catch leaking water. Trouble is that unless someone drills holes in the low spots of these pontoons, just ahead and behind the wheel wells, they collect this water and it never drains.
Where the floor of the kitchen is on the trailer is completely flat on the underside of the floor.
The attached picture is from the front looking toward the back. You can see the water tank hanging down in the back.
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I've heard that "leaking water catchment" thing before and have never understood where that water is supposed to come from!

The fiberglass floor coating is wall-to-wall in my trailer, even under the dinette benches and the cubby beneath the closet/kitchen counter.

The only place I can even see an edge of plywood or any sort of gap is as I think I said, at the extreme front under the bench....and if any water gets into that gap, it would just flow out through the pigtail aperture in the belly of the beast.

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Old 02-04-2013, 01:59 PM   #24
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Escape Trailers have the pontoons but with holes drilled. Any water that was to get in via a window/roof leak, condensation, plumbing leak will collect in these low spots and then drain via the holes. Consider it a non electric bilge pump or safety valve.
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That is good information. So, maybe I won't have to invest in foam bumpers. Do your boots have heavy duty soles?

What year is your rig?
Trailer is a 2011, and the boots are normal hiking boots - never measured the soles... Escape lists the interior height as 6'-2" but I suspect that is without the 1" or so the AC shroud sticks down.
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Old 02-04-2013, 02:47 PM   #26
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Most 13' and many 16' have bed widths of less than 4'. Scamp deluxe is one exception. Our Trillium is 45". Before we bought, we measured out on the floor and checked if the size was doable. Here is a bed size thread that's worth a look. Raz

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FG/Composite propane tank

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Another thing that Im looking into is Fiberglass/plastic propane tank

So if you find a trailer set up with a single bottle of propane, dont sweat it... buy the 20 or 25lb ($100 to 135.00)fiberglass tank and use that and you can visually see how much fuel you have in it before heading out for the weekend and save yourself about 45lbs off your tongue weight if you had 2 steel 20lb tanks.

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Definitely going with one of these and I want to include the valve that allows you to hook up your outdoor cooktop. DH delivers propane in the winter and had heard of them, but not seen one.
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You can't "have it all"
With that said, I like enuf galley counter that I don't have to set the frypan on the floor
and a handy loo even if we try to avoid using it. jack
Too true, but it sure doesn't keep us from trying, does it.
Good point re:cooking/prep
And I also can appreciate not having to make those late night trips to the facilities.
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