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Old 03-31-2017, 09:27 AM   #29
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For starters, to me a rig is something I used to drive, a semi/trailer combo. Our trailers do not rate that category. I actually just heard someone on the Escape forum call theirs a "rig" a while back, the first I had heard that term for our small(ish) trailers.
As a retired firefighter, our fire apparatus (fire trucks) were commonly referred to as our "rigs". Even the EMTs/Paramedics also referred to their ambulances as "rigs" even though they were considerably smaller.

I guess the name and habit stuck because I am guilty of referring to our 71 Boler as our "rig"....
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Old 03-31-2017, 12:17 PM   #30
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I've heard 'em called 'my rig' (referring to both tow vehicle & whatever kind of RV is being used) for at least the 50+ years I've been involved with RVs. Never knew that truck drivers used that terminology too, but then I ain't been around very many truckers, or firemen/para-medics for that matter. Matter of fact, in my experience, many (most??) people use 'my rig' to refer to their method of transportation & any accoutrements. Don't think the term was invented by either truckers or RVers... If anyone gets mad at me or makes fun of me for referring to 'my rig, well, so be it??
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Wink A rose by any other name...is not a coffee can.

It makes a difference what you call them when you're discussing details and are seeking specific information about them.


When you're out vacationing/recreating/camping with them, then as to names/terms, "it's all good."


When you're trying to figure out repairs, wiring diagrams, tow capacities, water, sewer, and other hookups, are selling or buying one, or trying to accurately describe and discuss them, then it does matter.


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Old 04-01-2017, 08:07 AM   #32
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Use of "Rig" and Rig-mockery

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IMHO:

I've heard women's clothing ensembles referred to as their "rig" as well...the term "rig" is being used for a variety of things nowadays.

It likely derives from the very, very old expression, "rigged out" as in having all the lines properly set on a sailing ship, as in the "rigging." The term may well have far older antecedents than that, as well.


Paul has worked as a "rigger" at both the shipyards and at Machinists, Inc. when putting lines (rigs) on something to lift or move it safely...


So few trailers have sails or lines...so few semi trucks do, either (though lines/straps/rigs are often used to secure loads...)! The expression has grown with time and expanded its usage...it's not just for truckers, though it certainly does apply to their "rigs" as well as many other things equally well.

I often use "rig" to refer to someone's trailer/camper/car&tow/toad/etc. because after one has written "trailer" fifteen times, one longs for a fresher term. It's not inaccurate.<_<


Here's the shell of our rig, Peanut, all rigged up, as well as the rigged up 40x 60 tarp Paul used to cover it in 2015/2016 to make repairs, as well as our complete "rig" all rigged out last July 2016...Denny Creek Campground, Mt. Baker/Snoqualmie National Forest Campground, Washington.
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Old 04-01-2017, 08:20 AM   #33
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Speaking of terms, Wikipedia defines a scamp as, "a person, especially a child, who is mischievous in a likable or amusing way". That perfectly describes a few Scamp owners I know!
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Point taken, Kai! The problem, as this thread has exposed, is that there are a lot of different terms used for the same thing, terms used loosely and/or inaccurately, and terms that have no precise definition, like "camper."

"Trailer" is an ambiguous word. In most codes it is generic for anything that attaches to the back of a vehicle and moves down the highway on wheels, including fifth wheels. But it is sometimes used loosely as short for travel trailer, which generally refers more specifically to a bumper-pull RV with fixed walls.

"Fifth wheel" is another ambiguous word. Technically, it is a type of trailer that attaches to a pickup bed using a king pin coupler. A Scamp 19 attaches to a pick-up bed, so it is often called a fifth wheel to distinguish it from a bumper-pull trailer, but it uses a different kind of coupler called a gooseneck. It is like a fifth wheel in that it normally carries a higher percentage of its weight on the hitch and has different towing characteristics.

I looked up a couple of state motor vehicle definitions. California considers anything that attaches to a vehicle over the rear axle a "fifth wheel," regardless of the coupler type. Ohio specifies a "fifth wheel hitch" but has no category for a recreational vehicle with a gooseneck hitch (as far as I know Scamp is the one and only). So, even among legal jurisdictions, there is inconsistency.

When discussing technical details it's best to know exactly what make and model you're talking about and take any classifiers like "trailer" or "fifth wheel" or "camper" or "rig" with a grain of salt.
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"SCAMP" definition...8) Wanted to give your post a thumbs up...






"Amerigo" was the first name of an intrepid European explorer, Amerigo Vespucci.
We considered naming Peanut, "Vespucci" and if we repaint one day, with associated decal changes, we might.
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Technically, I believe "Gooseneck" and "Neckover" are both registered trademark names. But they are both so commonly used (like "fridge" from the original "Frigidaire" company name) to describe that type of in-bed, over-axle hitch that I'm not sure there even is a true generic name for them. Other insight?
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Technically, I believe "Gooseneck" and "Neckover" are both registered trademark names. But they are both so commonly used (like "fridge" from the original "Frigidaire" company name) to describe that type of in-bed, over-axle hitch that I'm not sure there even is a true generic name for them. Other insight?
I believe you are wrong on two accounts. Gooseneck is a term standard in the industry, and not just used generically. All companies use is, and I have not heard any other description used. Neckover is something I have never heard of in my neck of the woods.

And fridge is just a short form of refrigerator. Frigidaire likely is just a play on that.

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For anyone still interested in this topic, the Gooseneck Trailer Manufacturing Company (registered trademark name) was founded in 1962. I'll be curious to see if anyone can find the name "gooseneck" in general use to describe this style of trailer prior to that.
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The Neckover trailer company came along with a similar design in the early 1970's.
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Most anyone who routinely hauls cattle owns one or the other, or both, of these two brands of livestock trailers.

For now, I'll stick with my understanding that the popular term "fridge" (not "refridge") came from the once very popular Frigidaire brand of home refrigerator. But moving on, how about another one - when people commonly ask for a "Kleenex" (R) when they mean more generically a facial tissue?
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If this was mentioned before, I missed it, but a horse and carriage combination is referred to as a "rig." Not sure how long that terminology has been around, but I bet for a good long while. Probably dates back to the horse and buggy days!
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Both right about fridge. I looked it up.


The company "Frigidaire" made up their name based on the word "refrigerator" and the term "fridge" came from circa 1925-30; a popular shortening of refrigerator and/or Frigidaire.


...partly like the word kleenex which is technically Kleenex@ a trademarked word. But who stops to say,"Please hand me a disposable facial tissue?" before or after a breezy sneeze?


Did you know "Roller Blades" is another such word? It's really a trademark, the generic term is "inline rollerskates." but again, who will take the time to be TM correct?


And "rig" for a horse and buggy is, of course, another common use. There would be reins involved, hence, "lines" hence, rigging, too, so this harks back to sailing days even more obviously. AND would move on to such things as horse-drawn firetrucks or pumper trucks, and then slide on to be used for today's fire engines...rigs, all.
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Old 04-02-2017, 08:03 AM   #41
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The Internet can be a wonderful and questionable source of information, but just to add a bit more to the discussion, check out the reference to Roman baths at the bottom
(http://fridge-googling.blogspot.com/...-fridge.html):

"Anonymous said...
Alfred Mellowes was the first to construct a true refrigerator. He was also a founder of the Frigidaire company. Often times we refer to the manuracturors name when referring to an item. I think that it is totally possible that the term fridge was used because the majority of households initially had a fridigaire until other companies started to mass produce, but by then the name stuck
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markowe said...
Thanks for the enlightenment! I think we missed that when originally writing the article. Of course, trademarks very often get "genericised". In Britain a vacuum cleaner will forever be called a "hoover", much to the annoyance of the Hoover company, who have probably more or less lost their trademark claim by now!
July 26, 2010 at 10:36 AM
Andy121 said...
In Ancient Roman bath houses, the romans would induce sweating by moving from one room to another. Frigidarium is the second stage, it is known as the "cold room". Reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_bathing"

Anyone need a Q-Tip (registered trademark name for a cotton swab)?
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