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Old 08-20-2003, 08:24 PM   #1
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Who got wormed?

Ya know, I like think of myself as a fairly progressive nice guy, against the death penalty, making sure everyone has thier point of view expressed whether I agree or not, and think that what one does with thier own lives is their own business and not a place for me to make judgement calls... BUT...

Whoever created this latest Blaster Worm virus (or for arguments sake, anyone who constructs any virus) thing should be strung up in the town square and beaten by the torch carrying, pitchfork weilding citizenry, until they are bruised and bloody, and then forced while having pickle juice poured over their wounds to debug every computer they infected...

Not that I have given their fate much thought during the two times I had to debug my own 'puter... :censor

So, now that's off my chest... anyone else get nailed?



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Old 08-20-2003, 08:34 PM   #2
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Hi Eric

I didn't - but my niece in Buffalo, NY did. Had a terrible time until we sent her an email that we received on what to do...... I sent it to Debbie and she fixed her computer right away.

I agree with you.... these people are cruel.... why don't they put all their talent to a good use ... these aren't usually dumb people.... they are just looking to see what they can do to make others suffer....

I still have the email if anyone needs it, and I would be happy to send it to you.

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Old 08-20-2003, 08:35 PM   #3
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Wormed? Oh Yes!

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I was off the net long enough that I wasn't aware there was anything wrong with our forum until I read of it being fixed again.

10-4 on the beating with pitch forks and irrigation with pickle juice!!:bh :bh
Can we then Hit Control. Alt and Delete too??
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Old 08-20-2003, 08:48 PM   #4
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I did!

I happened to be off work that day--and all of a sudden my computer started shutting down--over and over.
Getting hooked up again I was able to stay on line long enough to run a query on the error msg. and figure out what was going on.
It took me about 6 tries, but I finally got the patch and fix downloaded and installed.
Whew!



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Old 08-20-2003, 09:58 PM   #5
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Home puter got it

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Our home puter got wormed, I fixed it the next day with the patch and then bought and installed Norton Anti Virus. I had that on my Laptop and never had a problem.

I agree with all the torture described for Virus creators but I would also add the ''Scotch torture''. I can't describe details but it involves a 10th floor window, two big rusty nails, a 3 lb hammer and a push out the window. We should also add all of the above to Terrorist Bombers as well.

Keith



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Old 08-20-2003, 10:15 PM   #6
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I got lucky, sort of. I had botyh my computers set up with firewalls and virii protection and had already downloaded the patches before I got the bug. Clear sailing, until my brother called , he is not computer savy but does check the weather every day and gets e-mail from family and the blacksmiths groups. he was eaten up. i went out to Marble Falls and spent 1/2 a day sorting out and updating him. When I got home my mom had left a message, same problem, but this time a few hours on the phone and all was well.
I think those who do this should be wraped in duct Tape and it removed some slowly some fast, then made to pay cash no bankrupt allowed but to totally pay each and every one of us who lost money or time on their little shinnagian.



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Old 08-21-2003, 03:44 AM   #7
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Whoever doesn't have a firewall should get one. I use Zonealarm. It's free and it's really good. It's not hard to set up like some of the others and works on the principle that if it doesn't know whats coming in it doesn't talk to it (you are invisible).



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Old 08-21-2003, 07:04 AM   #8
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I have Windows 98 here at home, so no problem. But I work for a Fortune 500 company and it ravaged our servers. We spend literally millions on IT software/hardware a year, including firewalls and constantly update everyone's virus protection. It still nearly took our AP/AR and payroll departments to their knees. In today's tight business economy, this was NOT an expense we needed to incur.

This was terrorism, plain and simple.



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Old 08-21-2003, 07:29 AM   #9
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If I have Norton, and update, am I patched? or do I need to do something else? (what did I just say?)



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Old 08-21-2003, 07:30 AM   #10
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lest we not forget

a lot of the blame lies squarely with Microsoft

one has to wonder if we would have all these computer security problems if there was any viable competition to Windows

the US government and the courts didn't have the nerve to follow through before it was too late to be sure Gates and Co. didn't strangle just about every competitor and now we all pay the price in some ways

commonality is great - but something as vital as the operating standards for computers worldwide shouldn't have been allowed to be monopolized -- and the courts just plain take too long to act, if they do act at all... :zz

fortunately, there are a good number of antivirus/firewall products NOT developed by Microsoft! :wink



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Old 08-21-2003, 08:38 AM   #11
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I got it sent to me, but my Norton antivirus picked it up, quaranteed it and notified me. worked great.

For those of you who don't use an antivirus program, I strongly recommend it. Norton (and McAfee) have saved me multiple times.

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Old 08-21-2003, 08:50 AM   #12
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Crime and Punishment

The perps should be banned from computers, reading about them, or any reference to them for twenty years. They should be forced to go back to the stubby pencil to keep all their own books, write all correspondence by hand...exactly like it was before computers.

Those that are the worst offenders, should also do community service in the form of manual stubby pencil bookkeeping as a back up for anyone's computer who might crash.

For those that are housebound that rely on the computer to do all their shopping, bill paying, etc, the perps will have to go by and pick up their lists, do their shopping for them, and pay all their bills --run all their errands, etc.

Then we can all sit back and laugh at them while they sweat away with a ten key ... just the way they laugh at what they've done to other's computers.

Neat thing is, they are really no more than a pesky fly buzzing in my ear. I'll get a swatter and when I do, their toast.

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Old 08-21-2003, 09:14 AM   #13
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Good, free anti-virus software

I run a very reliable anti-virus software that's free- AVG from http://www.grisoft.com/ and I highly recommend it to my non-geek friends, because it self-updates. I ran McAfee for years, and liked it, but found that my clients simply couldn't stay on top of updating it. I put AVG on their computers, and none of them have had a viri problem in the last year. In June I even installed it on my high-traffic computer, and have been thoroughly pleased with it.
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Old 08-21-2003, 10:54 AM   #14
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My husband got it at work, but called me right away and said not to turn on the computer till he got me the cure. So it never came to the house. Thank Goodness, since I know nothing about this stuff and it woudl have screwed up everything. I have Norton, so I can only hope that it would have caught it. Funny thing is, he said it did different things to different computers on the same line.



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Old 08-21-2003, 11:32 AM   #15
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<<lest we not forget
a lot of the blame lies squarely with Microsoft>>

I'd be willing to place nearly ALL the blame on Microsoft. This lousy company has been so abusive of the general public for so long, that there is a very strong retaliation sentiment out there. Combine that with the fact that they have the sloppiest coding in the history of the world, and it is just a hayday for those who can't control their primal instincts.


<<If I have Norton, and update, am I patched? or do I need to do something else? (what did I just say?)>>

No, you still need to go to the Microsoft Update website and download the patch to plug the hole that this virus uses. Incidentally, you need to go to the Microsoft Update website daily, or at the very least, every other day, because new vulnerabilities are found that quickly. Or, switch to Apple or Linux, and don't worry about it anymore.

I just purchased a brand new Dell PC for my pastor. I took it to his house last night to set it up, and, being an IT guy myself, I planned that the very first thing I'd do is connect to the update site and get the patch, to start out on the right foot. I connected to the web (56K dialup), started to navigate to the update site, and WHAM! -- blaster shut the computer down. I wasn't on the web for 10 seconds, and it hit. Hadn't checked for mail, or anything. Very annoying.



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Old 08-21-2003, 11:36 AM   #16
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I have Norton Anti-Virus 2003 and Roadrunner has it's own firewall installed, but the little bugger still managed to worm it's way past them both (I had to use dial-up at work with my 'puter and that's where it happened, so maybe the firewall being down did it)

Interesting points of view on punishment... mental note... don't tick of Fiberglass RVers ;)



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Old 08-21-2003, 12:30 PM   #17
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If you get really frustrated, get a Mac next time. They are immune from this little bugger and from most others as well.



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Old 08-22-2003, 07:30 AM   #18
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Mac immunity

Mac users can rightfully be pleased that they're not susceptible to the now-rampant PC viruses, but if everybody were to switch to Macs, it wouldn't be long before some creep(s) targeted Macs with viruses.

It doesn't seem to be so much a question of sheer immunity - the virus creeps want to create a big mess, and when they let loose something like the PC viruses Sobig or Blaster, that they do, with PC's so dominant in the world.

I have a lot of respect for Macs, but the simple truth is that a devastating Mac virus wouldn't cripple the economy or bring down the internet -- but it would tick off a lot of graphic artists, etc. <img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f4619fce09ddangry-smiley-035.gif/>

Of course, a big reason PC viruses spread so easily is that most PC users use Outlook/Outlook Express, so a virus creep can design his ''work'' much more easily than if we used a wider variety of email clients, as Mac users do.

There's a fairly good write-up about all this here:

http://www.macopinion.com/columns/tangible/01/08/08/

The article is two years old now, but the author had it right even for today - we may think viruses are bad now, but we ain't seen nothin' yet. :weep

It's the balance between the upside of convenience, and the downside of exposure to risk.



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Old 08-22-2003, 07:34 AM   #19
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I don't use outlook. :) finally I'm doing something right.
thanks to all your post, I'm catching up my updates. this may take a while. not my favorite thing to do. :wak



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Old 08-22-2003, 09:13 AM   #20
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For those who do use Outlook I offer this valuable tip:

Go to VIEW click on LAYOUT. Under preview pane - make sure SHOW PREVIEW PANE is unchecked.

(A preview pane is the same as opening the email. This is historically how many users got viruses in the first place.)

Hope this helps. :wave



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