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Old 12-09-2013, 09:52 PM   #15
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Winterizing house water system requires the measures required in an unheated trailer. Sure, you have heat on when you leave but the grid goes down and you don't have electric baseboard or under slab or the ignition for gas or oil-fired. Shutting off at the main entry to house avoids flooding but not burst pipes. I open faucets from top down to basement utility sink, flush toilet so at least the flush tank is empty, turn off gas to water heater and drain. With these precautions, about the only thing that can go wrong is freezing the section of entry pipe preceding the main shutoff inside the house.

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So Byron your using a service or monitored system right? Do you get a break on your home owners insurance with that?

I was thinking more of the DIY isystems but had not found one that I liked.
There was a pretty good discount from my home owners insurance. I don't think is quite pays for the system but it's close.

This was done by ADT and monitored by them. You can go as elaborate as you want. Here's what I have, the doors to outside and the garage from the house have sensors inside the door jam and the door. You can't get them with the door closed. There's a motion detector in the living room that covers a lot area where somebody would be moving about. There's a motion detector in garage along with heat detector. A smoke detector in the hall to bedroom.

The fire alarm is full time. If the heat detector or the smoke detector are activated the fire guys are on the way. There's two control panels one at the front door and one the bedroom, both have three panic buttons along with number pad and alarming buttons. The panic buttons are for fire, intrusion, and medical. You can set the intrusion on when you're at home and inside motion detector is disabled, every thing else is functioning.

You can add cameras and remote monitoring of the cameras and remote alarm and disarming if you want.

My biggest concern when gone was fire. By the time the neighbors would notice a fire it would be too late.

To me the full time monitoring for just fire is enough to justify the cost.
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I bought an alarm from Amazon for about $75. Three phone numbers can be programmed into it. It will call the numbers if the temp. goes below 45, if the power goes off, and has a sensor to put on the floor to detect water. My aunt checks the house a couple times a week also, and picks up and forwards our mail. I leave the heat at 60. We did get a call for no heat last winter, called my aunt who went right over and verified the fact, then called the repair service who went and fixed the problem. We have base board hot water heat and an oil fired boiler. Something I would have fixed myself if I was home as I had done that type of work for a few years, but had to rely on a former coworker this time.
You have to careful with those type of alarms. From the last I heard they were not legal here for calling any of the emergency services, fire, police, medical.
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Winterizing house water system requires the measures required in an unheated trailer. Sure, you have heat on when you leave but the grid goes down and you don't have electric baseboard or under slab or the ignition for gas or oil-fired. Shutting off at the main entry to house avoids flooding but not burst pipes. I open faucets from top down to basement utility sink, flush toilet so at least the flush tank is empty, turn off gas to water heater and drain. With these precautions, about the only thing that can go wrong is freezing the section of entry pipe preceding the main shutoff inside the house.

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I agree with you depending on where you live. We've had 3 or 4 days with below freezing temperatures for the first time in about 20 years. Normal is 2 or 3 nights with frost. Not close to enough cold to freeze pipes. We're also pretty luck that it's unusual to loose power for more than a couple hours and that only happens about once every 10 years. Risk assessment is a good idea. knowing what is likely and not likely to happen determines what needs to be done, what a good idea to do, what you don't worry about. Each location and each house will be different.
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Two weeks of 20 effing below in a location where you thought January was Speedo weather might make you reassess, Byron. Of course your admonition is correct that most of us don't prep for the one in a million happenstance. Winter was mentioned in the question. If you don't have winter where you live, I guess you prep for going away in August and having your clothes or dishwasher hose play out.

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Thanks for all the responses so far. While we're not planning to become snowbirds in the near future, reading of others heading south got me wondering. Leaving your house for extended periods presents challenges. Doing it in the winter adds to these. In our case below freezing for weeks on end is quite common. Our rural location with back roads (dirt) and frequent power outages makes leaving the heat on a gamble for sure. Draining the pipes seems the logical solution. This fellow makes it sound easy
Winterizing Home Plumbing Supply and Drain Pipes To Prevent Frozen or Burst Lines In A Vacant House

Perhaps others who do it will post.
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Old 12-10-2013, 07:01 AM   #21
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You have to careful with those type of alarms. From the last I heard they were not legal here for calling any of the emergency services, fire, police, medical.
Ours is not intended to call directly to any emergency service, only to notify us or a designated person to check the house. When I worked for a fuel company as a service tech many of our customers were "weekend people", city residents that had a second house here in the country, or citiots as the locals call them. Those houses that had hot water heating systems we could fill the system with antifreeze. It would at least save the boiler in the event of a failure or power outage. I've been on calls to frozen up houses, not fun. The cheapest alarm device, and it was sold by the company I worked for, was a temperature sensor that plugged into an outlet, plug a lamp into it and put lamp by a window that could be seen by a neighbor, and if heat went below the sent point it would turn the lamp on. This requires a trusted neighbor or someone that regularly drives by the house and will look.
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Old 12-10-2013, 07:05 AM   #22
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Because we have geothermal heat, it relies on extracting heat from our well water. Winterizing it is not something a DIYer is likely to be able to do. I'd have to call a heating person which would be pricey. So the heat is left on. I put a lamp in the window with a sensor attached. When the temp drops below a predetermined sett ing, the lamp turns on alerting the neighbors. I'll set the thermostat to 55*. If I turned the heat off it would get very cold in the house. Geothermal is quite slow reacting so it would take hours to get the temp back up. I'll turn the water heater off and the mail will go to the neighbors. The computer goes with me. This will be the 18th winter this procedure has been used and all is good. Our house is all electric so vulnerable to power outages. Because of this, I have a 20000 watt automatic whole house generator. It works well and is provides a lot of peace of mind.
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HHmm, don't let others know about your generator, they might want to use it on their fgrv for boon docking….
sounds like your system is set, except for well pump failure you are more or less self sufficient. I had a house with well water, once it goes, you have to deal with the first party that gets to your house because without water you are more or less SOL. I had to replace mine 3 times in 20 years, BTDT.
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without water you are more or less SOL.
We have a drilled well for our water supply. I keep a couple barrels and a couple 5 gallon buckets of water in my basement so we can at least use the toilets. Some bottled water for drinking. We also have a brook on our property, so an endless supply of toilet water at least.
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I was not that fortunate, no pump, no toilet, spouse was not happy. Had to get it fixed that day. This was before camping started.
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:07 PM   #26
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Batteryless back up sump pump

Folks who worry about basement flooding during a power failure should consider a water powered back up sump pump. They use the flow from your municipal water service to keep your sump dry. There are lots of models at lots of price points. This one seems good at $170.00 on Amazon.
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Folks who worry about basement flooding during a power failure
Interesting, never heard of them. However in my situation with my own well and pump it wouldn't work. Thanks for posting that John, we can learn something every day!
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Like others my insurance company requires someone to check on the house ever few days. I pay one of the neighbours children a small weekly fee for collecting up daily mail and stray flyers etc that get dropped off. I dont have mail forwarded - just pay the bills on line when away.

Have an monitored alarm system that dials a local security company that has a key to check the place should the alarm go off - I think they charge about $75 for each call out - which fortunately hasnt been often in the years I have had the alarm system. You can have the alarm dial the police directly but if its a false alarm you will get a big fine for it. My smoke alarms are hard wired to the alarm system and the system knows to call the fire department directly should one of them go off. The parents of the child who collects the mail also have a key and they will go into the house to check on it during a real cold spell as well or if they notice something doesnt seem right. I turn off the water to the house and leave the furnace set at about 45 when away. Actually had the outside water main burst while away one summer and it was noticed by the child who collects the mail that it was flooding my yard. He told his parents who called the fire department who came and shut off the water from the street main valve. The parents also went into the house to check there was no water damage inside so I didnt need to rush home and was able to deal with it when I returned.

It pays to be on good terms with your neighbours & their children.
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