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Old 09-08-2006, 07:21 PM   #43
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Bonnie : Have you posted pictures of the Ventura?
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Old 09-09-2006, 10:19 AM   #44
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Bonnie : Have you posted pictures of the Ventura?
We have four pictures of a Ventura in the Albums....need some more exterior shots most definitely!

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Old 09-21-2006, 11:16 PM   #45
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I have a line on a Surfside and would like to know from those who own one if anyone has taken a Dry Weight of their unit ?

Does anyone know if all TM 14 Surfsides from Triple E are under 1500 lbs - Dry ?

I was told when I was shopping around for a surfside it was 1600 dry. So I bought our 1977 surfside because of that.
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Old 09-22-2006, 07:14 AM   #46
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Thanks Kathy. After I bought our 77 I inspected the trailer from head to toe and found a metal plate on the outside that states the trailer is 1650 lbs.
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Old 09-24-2006, 03:01 PM   #47
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Looked at a 1975 13' Surf Side (Trllium actully) a couple of weeks ago on a RV lot in Vernon,B.C. a couple of weeks ago. They where asking $4500. Only fair condition.
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Old 09-24-2006, 06:59 PM   #48
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Seems steep. My 76 was in good original shape and cost $2,700 in spring of 2004. Now that was In Fort Q'Appelle Saskatchewan, where there would be fewer buyers. But still if it isn't in really good shape you will probably spend a minimum of $800 -$1,500 making it the way you want it. Then you might have too much money in it.
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Old 09-26-2006, 12:48 AM   #49
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Trust me when I say that Triple E SurfSides come from a company still in business called Triple E. They are in Winkler, Manitoba. I live a mere 20 minutes from Winkler and know people that work for Triple E. In todays' market they focus on 5th wheel units and motorhomes. Back in the 70's they made the metal or aluminum models and Fiberglass models, although a lot of their Fiberglass models were put together in Gimili, Manitoba (just north of Winnipeg) where Triple E accquired some cheap buildings for use. Anyway, the SurfSides were put together in Gimili and then finished with detail work in Winkler and then shipped to dealers across Canada (mostly, Western Canada and Ontario).
In talking with a person that still works for Triple E (he has for over 30 years) he told me that about 4 years ago they tossed the Fiberglass mold for the doors to the SurfSide units and they still get calls asking about obtaining new doors.

So - SurfSides are not from Winnipeg - they are from a company called Triple E in Winkler, Manitoba and while most SurfSides were produced or made in Gimili, MB the company is based out of Winkler.

I think it's the best Fiberglass made camper from the 70's. However, I am a recent owner and probably a bit biased.
Hmmmm...found that interesting because I WAS SO SURE that my Surfside was manufactured in Winnipeg. Soooo....I checked out the form that was stuck on the back of my closet door listing the specs and stuff (Recreational Vehicle CSA Specification Nameplate) and I found out that it was indeed manufactured in Winnipeg, HOWEVER, it was manufactured by Armor Coach Industries. Well...who'd have thought? Maybe 2 manufacturers?

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Old 09-26-2006, 12:50 AM   #50
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Mine has a front kitchen, and straight across from the door is a Porta-Potty Closet. Miriam and I have both posted pictures recently of the insides of ours and you can see the door in those. I would love to see more pictures of the front kitchen types too. Should we start a new topic like Surfside front kitchen pictures wanted?
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Great idea! I'd love to see more of that model!
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Old 09-26-2006, 12:53 AM   #51
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QUOTE(ericmarlo @ Aug 27 2006, 04:50 PM)

I have a line on a Surfside and would like to know from those who own one if anyone has taken a Dry Weight of their unit ?

Does anyone know if all TM 14 Surfsides from Triple E are under 1500 lbs - Dry ?



I was told when I was shopping around for a surfside it was 1600 dry. So I bought our 1977 surfside because of that.


My Surfside is listed at 1500 lbs Gross Trailer Weight. - Miriam
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Old 09-26-2006, 03:56 AM   #52
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I had a chance to check the certificate pasted to the inside of the closet of my 76 Surside and it said Gross Vehicle Weight 1650. This is the kitchen on the side model, gaucho bench in front and has twin propane tanks (apparently from birth). Question is - what does Gross Vehicle Weight mean. is this the weight of the trailer as delivered with no water in its 50(ish) liter water tank and empty propane tanks? Or is a limit that it should weigh with groceries, dog food and suitcases? I think its the former but i really don't know.

The version, optional equipment (double propane tank, spare wheel/tire etc), changes in production materials over time could all contribute to the GVW varying a few hundred pounds I would think.

I suppose Triple E would know how they used the term Gross Vehicle Weight in 1976 as there has been some continuity in the business.

As for the use of the name Armor Industries in Winnipeg, (someone in a previous post said theirs had Armor as the manufacturer) I have heard of others that had Gimli Mb as the place of manufacture. I have heard that the manufacture did take place in a number of different places over the years, but essentially it was always the same Mennonite owned goup/company that made the Surf Side and that is Triple E and still exists in Winkler.

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Old 09-26-2006, 04:33 AM   #53
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Taken from the Triple E website - Definitions from the Specifications page concerning weight:

GVWR (GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATING) The maximum permissible weight of this trailer. The GVWR is equal to or greater than the sum of the unloaded vehicle weight (UVW) plus the net carrying capacity (NCC).

UVW (UNLOADED VEHICLE WEIGHT) The weight of the trailer as built at the factory. The UVW does not include cargo, fresh water, LP gas, factory or dealer installed accessories.

NCC (NET CARRYING CAPACITY) The maximum weight of all personal belongings, food, fresh water, LP gas, tools, tongue weight of towed vehicle, factory and dealer installed accessories, etc., that can be carried by this trailer. (NCC is equal to or less than GVWR minus UVW.)
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:48 PM   #54
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Taken from the Triple E website - Definitions from the Specifications page concerning weight:

GVWR (GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATING) The maximum permissible weight of this trailer. The GVWR is equal to or greater than the sum of the unloaded vehicle weight (UVW) plus the net carrying capacity (NCC).

UVW (UNLOADED VEHICLE WEIGHT) The weight of the trailer as built at the factory. The UVW does not include cargo, fresh water, LP gas, factory or dealer installed accessories.

NCC (NET CARRYING CAPACITY) The maximum weight of all personal belongings, food, fresh water, LP gas, tools, tongue weight of towed vehicle, factory and dealer installed accessories, etc., that can be carried by this trailer. (NCC is equal to or less than GVWR minus UVW.)

Interesting that Miriam's trailer says Winnipeg as the place of manufacture, mine says Gimili, MB. But yes, Allan they may have had a few different production buildings. All I can say for sure is that Triple E started in Winkler, MB and they still have a very large factory in Winkler and it was started as a Family business and many of the same family and descendants still run the company.
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Old 03-09-2007, 06:15 PM   #55
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Hello Everyone,

My husband and I just bought a 1976 Surfside last week. We have been having a blast looking out our front window and seeing it sitting in our driveway. I have also been searching the internet for information on Surfside's and this site seems to have the most info out there. I have read all the postings on this site about the Surfside's and have picked up some tips for our upcoming remodel. I was wondering if anybody has had success painting the interior ensolite. If so what type of paint did you use? What about taking the ensolite down - how would you then resurface the inside (not carpet)!

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Old 03-09-2007, 07:20 PM   #56
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Welcome to FiberglassRV Jon, we're glad you're here

One of the best features on FiberglassRV is the powerful search engine (link is in the upper left). I typed in +paint +ensolite and only searched the "All about our Unique Little Trailers" forums: Donna D. search

I'm sure you'll find more info using different search words and searching different forums.

Have fun!
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