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Old 07-04-2012, 03:20 PM   #29
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And not wanting to hijack the thread, but inquring minds wanted to know. What is a Puffin? It took some digging, but is this it?
That's the one! Very well known on the Teardrops and Tiny Travel Trailers forum a few years back. Haven't seen Steve on there for more'n 3yrs now. The Puffin was/is a very well done tiny travel trailer & Steve received lots of Kudos for his build. Glad to see he's still interested in camping with a tiny travel trailer even if it ain't 'homebuilt'
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:04 AM   #30
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The Dexter axle data sheet available online gives all the information needed to work out what start angle will give what ride height, though you'll need to do some adding 'n' subtracting.
Well I just crawled out there with a tape measure and found the center of my hub is about 2.5" above the torsion tube of the axle, giving me a -2.5" H loaded, by using Dexter's specs and nomenclature. This puts my current axle between the 10* up (-2" loaded) and 22.5* up (-3") axles on Dexter's spec sheet. I can get my hand between the top of the tire and wheel well but it only feels like ~2" clearance, according to Dexter you should have 3" clearance from full load for "Bump Clearance" so all I really need is an extra inch of clearance to have a smooth and safe ride.

I like the way my trailer currently sits (and gets into the garage) so I think I'm going to look into getting the 0* axle, that gives -1.08" H under full load, or about 1.5" lift over my current axle (and probably a little more as my 1350# trailer will not be a full load for this 2200# axle).

So if I call Dexter Axle and use the specs (other than down angle and tire bolt pattern) given to me by Kent at Scamp I would get this:
9TF22, 4 on 4.5, idler with brake flange, high profile bracket, easy lube, 63x49 , 0*.

Does this seem right if I want to use my current wheels?

Thanks for all the great info so far.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:23 AM   #31
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Well I just crawled out there with a tape measure and found the center of my hub is about 2.5" above the torsion tube of the axle, giving me a -2.5" H loaded, by using Dexter's specs and nomenclature.
The Dexter specs actually say "top of bracket" which is essentially the bottom of your frame. The specs you choose will also depend on the mount height and the AP bracket kit if you choose to use one.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:44 AM   #32
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The Dexter specs actually say "top of bracket" which is essentially the bottom of your frame. The specs you choose will also depend on the mount height and the AP bracket kit if you choose to use one.
Roy, you spot the details! Dexter does indeed say H is center of spindle to top of bracket. I'll need to crawl out there and get the correct measurements and redo my math again to be sure I get the ride height I want. Thanks for the catch.
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:42 PM   #33
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Thanks Evan.
It might have something to do with replacing 2 axles already. Changing to a leading arm on my boler American involved a lot of math. So much that the guy who builds trailers and was welding mine on said, you do the calculations if it does not fit or work then it is your problem.
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Old 07-05-2012, 06:47 PM   #34
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Here's a couple of pictures of what I believe to be a Puffin. It is a little different from your picture but could be a variation.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:09 PM   #35
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Hey Steve,

First of all I'm a big fan. I found your boat resto first and then read your entire puffin thread, but I came late to the party so I was a lurker. Thought I'd join here so I can get input from you and the others. I've been in the market for a little fiberglass number to spruce up since I'm not so confident of my build from scratch skillz.

Are you gonna detail the restoration of your Scamp here to inspire the rest of us? "We're not worthy, were not worthy, we suck! I'm hoping I can follow your progress and do the DIY thing. This is my first try at anything like this. If I can find a camper to call my own.

(Also can't wait to live vicariouslly through you with all your camping/boating buddies.) LOl. How many ladies you up to now dawg?

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Here's a couple of pictures of what I believe to be a Puffin. It is a little different from your picture but could be a variation.
Yep. That was the 2nd version I built.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:19 PM   #37
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Hello JW,

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First of all I'm a big fan. I found your boat resto first and then read your entire puffin thread, but I came late to the party so I was a lurker.
Awesome. I'm glad you liked that stuff. I've done a few boats and campers. I'm really looking forward to see what I can pull off with the Scamp - I've wanted one for many years.


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Are you gonna detail the restoration of your Scamp here to inspire the rest of us? "We're not worthy, were not worthy, we suck! I'm hoping I can follow your progress and do the DIY thing. This is my first try at anything like this. If I can find a camper to call my own.
I'm going to do more than a write-up - I'm going all out on this thing. We're going to take photos and make video of the rebuild. It's also going to get the pimp treatment - wood floors, upgraded windows, AC install, Airstream blind treatment, custom counter top, custom cushions, bathroom/shower install, new axle, frame reinforced and modded, new paint, satellite tv, surround sound, etc. etc. We have the camper at J's (Jacque) parent's shop - so this is the first time I have the luxury of a shop for my project, rather then doing it under a shade tree. Should begin the build this week. We moved all my tools to the shop last weekend.

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camping/boating buddies.) LOl. How many ladies you up to now dawg?
I've left that life behind. I must have done something right in a previous life because I landed a keeper. She's helping with the rebuild too. I'll try to keep -> her <- on video more than my ugly mug.

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I've left that life behind. I must have done something right in a previous life because I landed a keeper. She's helping with the rebuild too. I'll try to keep -> her <- on video more than my ugly mug.
Dude you are my freaking idol! Holy crap! Was going to josh ya about the keeper thing, but wow. Your keeping a playmate. Guess that sayin about quality not quantity really is true. *drools* And she comes with a shop? and is helping? What does she do and does she have a sister?


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I'm going to do more than a write-up - I'm going all out on this thing. We're going to take photos and make video of the rebuild.
Looks like I got connected just in time. Can't wait to see what comes next. Meanwhile I think I'll narrow my search for a Scamp. They seem to be more available than some others.

Off to search craigslist.

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Your keeping a playmate. Guess that sayin about quality not quantity really is true. *drools* And she comes with a shop? and is helping? What does she do and does she have a sister?
She may or may not have been a bunny - I will neither confirm nor deny. She actually glassed the floor in my '58 Larson, so she's going to be very useful with the Scamp glass work we have planned. We're ditching all the rivets and glassing everything to the insides after we replace the floor. We're also going to clean up the outside - remove vents, ducts, water fills, etc.

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Looks like I got connected just in time. Can't wait to see what comes next. Meanwhile I think I'll narrow my search for a Scamp. They seem to be more available than some others.
It appears that way. My first choice was a Burro/Uhaul, but we found the Scamp relatively close (2.5 hours) so we jumped on it.

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Good luck on your search!

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Old 07-09-2012, 06:42 PM   #40
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so please clarify

I am also in need of an axle. does leading arm mean that the arm points towards the front of the pivot point / trailer and trailing arms towards the rear of the pivot point/ rear of the trailer?. All these degrees, how does one know what the camper cam with originally? I have an 84 16ft casita that I have totally torn down. I pulled the frame out from under it the paint the frame and my suspicions where confirmed. No more travel in the torsion axle. the end of the arms is above the pivot point and she towed really bouncy. I had anticipated all my repairs in this resto process except this on. Urggggg. I took my vacation to finish this but will now not reach my goal for camping in 2 weeks. Are these axles made to order or are they ready to go/ship? what can u expect to pay for one. thanks for any input.
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Old 07-09-2012, 07:20 PM   #41
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You can expect a few weeks to get one made by Dexter and shipped out. Not too expensive for one of the most critical components of a trailer. About $375 for an axle with brakes. You may find something in stock someplace, but every Dexter dealer I've ever spoken to gave me the two week estimate.

And getting it aligned correctly is important, so if you put it on yourself, I'd consult a trailer running gear specialist unless you're familiar with such things.

And yes, trailing arms stick back from the axle and leading arms stick forward. But the same axle can put used both ways. My axle came delivered from Dexter set up with the brakes oriented for a trailing set up. Since the 13' Scamps use the leading arm configuration, my installer just turned the brakes around and installed it that way.
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:16 PM   #42
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LOL. Well congrats on the Scamp and the bunny. I'm a little amazed that she likes doing your projects with you. Not something I would've guessed from her photo. That's the kind I need to find. It sounds like you two have an awesome project in store for us. I'll be sure to stay tuned.

Thanks for the luck. I may need it. I fear a long trip is in my future.

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