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Old 05-10-2013, 04:00 PM   #15
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There is a long thread called Portable Propane Heaters from January of this year where the pro and cons of various little heaters was talked about.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:18 AM   #16
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Hi, just bought a Scamp that didn't come with a heater or as I call it, a furnace. I am planning on installing it myself and have already done this to one of my last pop-ups. Honestly it was pretty easy to do in most respects if you are handy or have a friend who is handy with lots of tools. Or pay to have it installed at an RV place which would get pricey I am sure. I am a shop teacher so it was nothing to it and I am looking forward to doing it again.

I just get whatever furnace is originally installed and will put it where it would go on the model I have. I can get one on E-bay for about $375 or straight from Scamp for a little more. Some fittings, thermostat, wire and a gas line and I am in for right around $425. I think a professional install would be about $800-1000.

Installing: I looked a few days ago and found a gas inline splice connector exactly where it can be changed out with a T-connector so gas line will be easy, no cutting. Connect gas line up with compression fittings and test for leaks. I need to punch a hole or holes through camper shell and will find spot from inside and drill a pilot hole from inside and finish with a hole saw or jig saw from outside. I would then mount the furnace and wire it to the fuse box wires just as they were from the factory. Wires for this are with the gas line already or i may have to put some in which is easy. Where the furnace is going I have a large cabinet door already so I just have to cut the door to size and router the edge of the door to match. The cabinet face needs to look nice so I will either fiberglass or nicely block the hole for both furnace or cabinet. I like to do everything perfect like it was from factory so might fiberglass and repaint the cabinet face but unsure of that. Than I need to run the wires to the thermostat and install a CO detector.

I did it once already, will do it again and found the furnace install on a camper to be a pretty average level skill for someone. I like doing stuff myself and have been teaching these same skills for the past 26 years so a furnace install is something to do with beer. It's about a 4 hour job but snags and thinking always double that so am planning on 8 total.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:52 PM   #17
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Here is a post where I installed a furnace in my 13 Scamp. I've camped at over 8,000 feet and it worked well. I camped in the desert at 30 degrees and it worked well. I need the heater to be comfortable as I hate to be over stacked with bedding and if I had to do it again I would install the same unit again
Have fun with your install.

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Old 06-17-2013, 10:55 PM   #18
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The previous owner put an Atwood in ours as well. Something like 35,000 BTU and can be used at elevation. The blower on it is noisy, but there's no cold spots in the trailer. At all. Every corner is warm. The downside is that I generally only get a few days on a charge during the cooler times - early spring, late fall. Could be an older battery though.

One thing I did notice is that when the battery get's too low, the furnace stops working. The fan will spin up, but the Atwood that I have requires the fan to spin at a minimum of 75% top speed or it doesn't generate enough air movement to trip a switch that ignites the gas. It would just spin then shut down. Spin then shut down. So glad I was able to google the problem and realize that that the battery needed a charge because an RV fixit shop in Kamloops tried to sell me a $250 circuit board without even looking at the furnace. No returns either!

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Old 06-18-2013, 04:33 AM   #19
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Compression fittings are a no-no with propane. Flare only.
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:31 AM   #20
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Compression fittings are a no-no with propane. Flare only.
Interesting, I am certainly no expert on propane fittings, but I have worked on large oil field natural gas compressors. For the smaller lines, up to 3/4", we used 316 stainless steel tube, and Swagelok compression fittings. Good to 11000 psi.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:41 PM   #21
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Cost less than 600 to have mine installed at the factory. Generally I'm a DIYer, but in this case I left it up to the factory
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:01 AM   #22
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For those that boondock, but want a conventional furnace, look at the Atwood 8012 II. Produces 12,000 BTU and draws 1.8 amps. Provides plenty of heat for my 17' Escape, and ran fine at 10,000' near Leadville, CO last August - Yes, I needed heat in August!
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Old 06-21-2013, 01:18 PM   #23
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Jared, you are right on about flare fittings for LP, my bad, been a while since I did that furnace job. I do everything by the book and purchased identical fittings that were used from RV manufacturer last time and will do the same again. I also installed the Atwood furnace. That one was great and I think more btu than the Suburban and it didn't kill the battery. Anyone know the stats of which one draws less current, the Atwood or the Suburban? The Atwood is more $ but the Suburban is the one that Scamp uses. Any recommendations for either?
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:01 PM   #24
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Linda,
FWIW, in the ten years I've had my burro I've used my Coleman Sportcat tent heater twice - spring camping at the north rim of the Grand Canyon (9000') and last month in a snowstorm at Bryce Canyon (8000'.) I camp at over 8000' and find that between my dog and my down comforter I stay cozy. I typically camp from late April thru October.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:33 PM   #25
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... I also installed the Atwood furnace. That one was great and I think more btu than the Suburban and it didn't kill the battery. Anyone know the stats of which one draws less current, the Atwood or the Suburban?
There are many models of furnace from each of those manufacturers, but in the small 12,000 BTU/hr (input) size typical of our trailers I believe that the Atwood mentioned by Jon is the clear low-power leader.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:19 PM   #26
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well now is the time you might see some used vented marine boat heaters for sale on ebay! something with a low to no poser useage and less btu's then the furnace.
Do you have a link to these heaters, or a full searchable description.

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