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Old 01-23-2006, 10:20 AM   #15
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Old 01-23-2006, 06:17 PM   #16
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This is the reply to an e-mail that I sent to Dexter.

Dear Craig,

Thank you for visiting the Dexter Axle website and sending us your question.

Please visit the website to locate your nearest Dexter Axle distributor for
pricing of a complete 3500 pound Torflex axle with brakes. On this page you
could enter your zip code to get a listing, however it seems that you
have to open up the radius to 500 miles.
http://www.dexteraxle.com/find_a_distributor

You can order direct from the Carrollton, Missouri Dexter facility since it does
seem to be the closest and might end up saving you money in the long run.
Typically the customer's are referred to a distributor that is closer to them
than the Dexter facility due to the cost of shipping and handling.

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Old 01-23-2006, 06:22 PM   #17
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Can someone tell me how to determine the mfg/ type of axle I have? Where do I look? I have a 2003 16' Scamp
Thanks, trying to catalogue everything for further reference
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Old 01-23-2006, 06:38 PM   #18
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Can someone tell me how to determine the mfg/ type of axle I have? ...
My new-last-year replacement brake backing plates have the Dexter name stamped right in them, on the side which is visible after installation. Since (as noted earlier) Dexter components are used on axles assembled by many other companies (such as mine from Standen's), this still doesn't say who actually made the axle. My axle had a foil identification plate wrapped around the axle tube (it's a leaf-spring beam axle), which was only partially readable after years of gravel damage, and identified the actual manufacturer. "Your mileage may vary..."

As for general type, the manufacturer's web pages in Fiberglass RV's Resources / Helpful-Links / Axles & Running Gear all give drawings to show what their products look like. Unfortunately, the Dexter Torflex, Henschen Duraflex, and many other rubber torsion systems all look the same. Al-Ko and Flexiride rubber torsion setups looks distinctive (to me, anyway). The leaf-spring beams axles are pretty generic, but it might not matter since the parts seem to often interchange.
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Old 01-23-2006, 08:16 PM   #19
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Can someone tell me how to determine the mfg/ type of axle I have? Where do I look? I have a 2003 16' Scamp
Thanks, trying to catalogue everything for further reference
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Chris, my '02 Scamp 16' has an Al-Ko 3500lb axle under it. I would presume that your '03 would as well.

Scamp can tell you, by serial number, which axle you actually have, if their business records have in fact survived. But, you shouldn't need to worry about replacing that axle for oh, another twenty years or so...

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Old 01-23-2006, 08:36 PM   #20
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Anyone have any idea what the axle under my 75 13' Boler would be? It has the links leading forward. At this point, i have no idea if it has brakes.
My Boler was manufactured in Earlton, Ontario Canada.

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Old 01-24-2006, 01:02 AM   #21
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Most recent axles have an aluminum tag on them, or stenciling, with the axle manf, the axle plant ID (in the case of Dexter for sure) and the order number. Using these numbers, the axle manf can be queried and a replacement ordered that matches all the specs and variable measurements that are on the original.

A COMPETENT axle shop knows how to reference the Dexter materials and make the proper measurements.

Scamp worked up a particular code to describe the axle to their various suppliers, but unless your supplier deals with Scamp, they may not even understand the code (that includes a Dexter plant that Scamp may not deal with. I believe Redneck Trailer Supply can translate the code.

Craig, check with Redneck regarding an axle -- I believe they are in your neck of the woods. BTW, the way you stated it, sounds like you are wanting the full 3,500 lbs -- Is that what Casita uses? The axle have a range (#9 is somthing like 600-2,200 lbs) and can be "rubbered" at 100 lb intervals during assembly by cutting the rubber to length. I believe the "3,500" axle has a range of 2,300 - 3,500, but I'm not sure. There is an awful lot of tech info in PDF form on the Dexter site.
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Old 01-24-2006, 08:48 AM   #22
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Chris,
It shouldn't be too hard to determine the manufacturer of a Scamp axle. We have already established that there are two possibilities. Dexter axles have a square tube and Al-Ko uses a hexagonal tube.
If you determine that you have a Dexter Torflex axle, you can tell by the tube size.
#9 - tube size = 2.17"
#10 - tube size = 2.62"

You can tell what size brakes you have by the color of the wire that sticks out of the backing plate. The green wire on my Casita indicates that the brakes are 10X 21/4. There may be some correlation between brake size and axle capacity but it so, I haven't found it yet.
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Old 01-24-2006, 08:55 AM   #23
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Good info, Craig! From looking at Dexter's website, it appears that the #9 axle has 7x 1 1/4" brakes that are rated for up to 2200 lb loads (the max for the #9 axle) and the #10 axle uses the 10" brakes.

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Old 01-24-2006, 09:32 AM   #24
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Roger H,
There is a correlation between brake size and axle capacity and the clue can be found in the Scamp parts list. http://scamptrailers.com/parts/partslist.doc

Axle 2200 Lb. For 13 Foot Trailer with 7 brakes 410.00 Installed 575.00
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Old 01-24-2006, 11:53 AM   #25
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for anyone who is looking this link is for a complete 2000lb axle with brakes. the brakes should fit no problem, maybe the whole axle will.
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Old 01-25-2006, 04:02 PM   #26
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I was pricing an axle from a company near Winnipeg and they were ball parking me a price of about $465.00 with brakes for either a 2200# or a 3500# Dexter axle and if they had to cut off the old axle it would be about $150.00 to install....these prices are Canuck bucks...this is a place that manufactures various trailers and if I wasn`t replacing it myself, I would have a manufacturing place like this one do the replace rather than an RV shop or garage or whatever! .......Benny...... oops, forgot to mention that this axle was a Torqflex.
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Old 01-25-2006, 07:08 PM   #27
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I called Croft Trailer Supply in Kansas City for a price on a Dexter #10. I was told that the cost for that size is $389.00 plus shipping. That is in US dollars.
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Old 01-26-2006, 08:07 AM   #28
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I had a 3500 lb axle built for me last year using Dexter Parts, from one of their distributors Cerka in Milton Ontario
5 bolt, e-z lube with electric brakes to fit on my Trillium 5500 for $348.00 CAD, taxes included.
Since I had leaf springs, it was just a bolt on set up.
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