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Old 07-23-2008, 09:56 PM   #15
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Like many of you we do all of our cooking outside of our trailer. One thing that has bothered me was the use disposable propane cylinders - we can go through as many as 1 a day depending on what have on the menu. I find that the use of them is both quite wasteful and for garbage collectors a hazardous item (more on what they are doing in Canada here)

What I have done is install a Extend-A-Flow Tee on my propane tank to allow for flow through on to the regulator on the trailer. It then provides an pressure fitting for a standard camping appliance hose. We used this last weekend on our trip to a local island and it works like a charm. The only drawback was that we had only one appliance hose and I would like to connect our propane stove and propane lantern.

To handle this I have purchased an Add-A-Tee to split a single appliance connection into two. I will also need to buy 2 additional short hoses to feed the appliances.

The only drawback (and its a biggie) to this system is the cost. The Canadian prices are similar to the links I have included to rvshop.com. A 12' hose runs around $45 bucks. A 5' hose runs around $30. So total cost is going to be around $150-$200 all said and done. That's a lot of dough not to be using $4.00 disposable cylinders. I think the brass fittings could be made much cheaper but the hoses would require specialized equipment

Anyways, just thought I would let people know about an alternate system if you do extended day trips like we do.

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...this is eggsakerly WHY we tend to use 'organized' campsites when we camp.
We almost always opt to camp in a place that offer Alec Tricity.
Although we do have ample gas powered appliances, we would rather NOT use them, opting instead for the 'plug in' conveniences. Since we are paying for power anyway, why would we choose to use our own Pro Pane (which we again have to pay for) for anything???
....and YES. ALL our cooking and cleanup is done outdoors.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:06 PM   #16
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I used a 5 lb. tank and a tee to fuel the Coleman and BBQ for years. Only problem I had was that sometimes the kid employed at the gas station had only been taught to fill 20 lb. propane tanks.
That tank expired and I now have a 10 lb. tank which isn't too large or heavy to deal with, but the kid still won't know how to fill it if I run out ( never have ). I bought a "tree" but it is cheap and doesn't inspire confidence. Besides, I usually don't need a lamp where the tank is.

The new Excape will be picked up Saturday.

I went with the three-burner stove, even though I too cook outside. I'm planning on leaving the Coleman at home and using the Q and my Thunder Range. It is compact. One burner. The TR runs on butane tanks. Extremely compact and boils water in about 1/3 the time of the Coleman. I figure I can do dinner with that combination and if I have to cook vegetables, I can always do that inside.

You can get the Thunder Range at an outdoor store for about $40 in Canada or from a Chinese or Korean supermarket here for about $25.

Since, when I get up, I need my coffee NOW! I turn to the Thunder Range. Butane tanks are about $3, but last, since it's so fast.

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lol, Doug, you always bring something different to the discussion.

In our 16 days camping so far this summer we only had hookups available on 2 days in Drumheller and we chose not to use them as we were prepped for non hookup sites. The non-hookup sites tend to be the more rustic areas which our kids love - I believe it's that Lord of the Flies thing =)

Next week are off for 10 days to our favorite campground and Alec Tricity is 7km away in Powell River. Just got my new 3 stage converter wired in (WFCO 8725) and a new deep cycle battery so curious to see how long the 12v lights works.
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I dislike the small 1lb containers as well. What I use is a refillable 5 lb propane tank from Canadian Tire, which I put next to the picnic table where we usually do most of the cooking with our portable stove. As to refilling 1 lb containers, it seems to be illegal in some places, and so is transporting re-filled disposable bottles. Check with local authorities...
Long discussion on other RV forum (RV.NET). Turns out that the federal prohibition is not quoted in full on the cannisters -- It is not legal to ***commercially** transport refilled cannisters -- I've looked the US code up and that's a true statement. No one could find any law prohibiting the refilling or transportation of cannisters for private use.
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Hi Glenn,

By 'Q' I am guessing you mean the renamed Weber q220 portable BBQ? I was actually just looking at them today as my wife and I are driven crazy by the smell of BBQing around us while camping. How do you like yours?

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By 'Q' I am guessing you mean the renamed Weber q220 portable BBQ? I was actually just looking at them today as my wife and I are driven crazy by the smell of BBQing around us while camping. How do you like yours?

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I just got it about a week ago and I'm still learning temps and times. A friend insisted on buying it for me as a trailer-warming gift. I have a perfectly good Broil King Porta-Chef, but I had no choice but to buy it. I could explain, but I won't.
I'm on my second Broil King after umpteen years. Both it and the Q are only one burner so you can't cook indirect. However, I've cut a chicken in half and grilled it on the Broil King many times with great sucess. The chamber is somewhat larger than the Q so we'll have to see how the Q does.

So far, I've done boneless / skinless chicken breasts and over cooked them. I've done burgers, dogs and tonight steaks. I'm getting the hang of the temp control.

As I sit here looking at it, on its folding cart ( which I also had to buy ), I'm of two minds. With the cart, it will probably take up as much space as the Broil King. Looks cute, for what that's worth. Cost twice as much.

If I was you, I'd buy a Broil King Porta Chef. And, I'm not selling mine.

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By 'Q' I am guessing you mean the renamed Weber q220 portable BBQ? I was actually just looking at them today as my wife and I are driven crazy by the smell of BBQing around us while camping. How do you like yours?

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Just to clarify. I got the Weber 120. The 220 is quite a bit larger. I'd still get a Broil King.

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Good thread. A few years ago I went through the issue of not wanting to carry another propane tank or use the little disposable bottles. At the time I had a northern lite camper and weight was a big issue. What I did was remove the union after the regulator and insert a tee. I then rehooked up the camper side and then hook a hose with a shut off to the other side. I use a 20' hose that cost around $60 and the tee cost a few bucks. This hose is long enough to move my BBQ around. I also disconnect this hose from my BBQ and use it to fuel my propane campfire.(Propane campfire became an essential during fire ban season)
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Greg, would ya mind sharin' with us where ya you got that long of a propane hose, please?

Did you have to have one made up somewhere?

I hear you about those propane firepits . We just bought our 3rd one the first of the month. . Its the smallest of three we have, with a diameter of about 14 inches. Its much easier to pack around and adds to the (world's semi-famous) 'cuteness factor' LOL.

We have an existing T connector on the front of our Trillium but as yet have NEVER used it. Finding a longer hose (eh?) like yours would save us having to pack a seperate bottle just for the firepit. Heck, we might even have to opt for a couple quick connect fitttings to go with a new hose.

The campfire warning has come into effect here just in time for the Pemberton Muzak Festival this weekend. We can't go as we are headed for another camp out weekend in N.W. Warshington. Too bad we'll also miss the Festival of Lights (heavy sigh).
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Holy Smokes! Those portable campfire are expensive! Do they work well enough to justify the cost?
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No one uses charcoal? We are looking at getting a 16' Scamp. With all of our tent camping, we bring a very small charcoal grill and a 5 lb bag of charcoal and that lasts all weekend. Granted that is just for 3 people. The ashes are easy to dump into the trash or into the firepit, and a quick spray with a hose finishes the cleaning. Works great if I want to add a few soaked chips for a little smoking too.
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We have a small charcoal hibachi as well as a Weber kettle (still the best). However, kids want to eat 'NOW' so it means someone has to leave the beach and prep the bbq and time everything right.
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Holy Smokes! Those portable campfire are expensive! Do they work well enough to justify the cost?
Deep Ends on how much YOU (or your specified 'other') likes to sit around a campfire!!

This new 'campfire junior' set us back a WHOLE $139 ('Muricun). Got away without payin the tax with a little 'sweet talkin'.
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We have a small charcoal hibachi as well as a Weber kettle (still the best). However, kids want to eat 'NOW' so it means someone has to leave the beach and prep the bbq and time everything right.
ONE of the bonus' of gas heat it its almost instant, second bonus is NOT having to deal with (store) a messy charcoal bag AND third is it takes less time for the unit to cool down to stow away and fourth, NO MESSY ASHES to safetly get rid of.
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