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Old 06-27-2007, 10:00 PM   #15
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Suzanne,

Don't forget the nickel and dime stuff as well.

Being in the PNW you are in "eggville." I have seen so many cool resale eggs in Washington, Oregon and BC that you will have a plethora of ones to look at.

We'll all help you find the right one.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:47 PM   #16
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Makes me think that Kristi's Bolers on the island for $7900 are not that far off on market value. Has anyone noticed the 17' Boler in Ontario at $11,000?! Susanne if you add the real value your time is worth the renovation would reach astonomical proportions. These small trailers are a labor of love and we all put a lot of our heart and soul into maintaining them.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:07 PM   #17
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Well, all I could do was guess on the amounts. No axle? What's that rod across the bottom? Seriously, there's a square rod, that has a slight bend in it in the center...if that's not the axle, is it a problem that curves or is it supposed to be? Is the rust an issue? The trailer was leaning over a bit, even though the tires were inflated, and the parking lot was flat, so should that have concerned me?
The owner called it an axle, and he's the one who mentioned it needing to be rebalanced. Pads, are just foam. You guys sure know your Bolers!
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Well, it _is_ a 30 year old trailer .... I think you're pretty high in a lot of your prices though... It's a 13foot boler right? It doesn't have 'an axle' if I remember correctly... What is a "rebalance"? what are "new pads"? a new awning for a 13 is about $250 w/hardware. grit compound and fiberglass putty is going to be $50 MAX combined... I realize this is fine tuning but take a way a hundred here, a few hundred there and you're way under $5900...

But in the end, only you know what you're ready for ....
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:54 PM   #18
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Just my 2 cents again. I am definately no expert but your prices do seem awefully high. Like I said, my tires installed on existing rims were $150 taxes in. Material for upholstery including curtains (got a sale on really cool stuff) was $150.
Those are the prices I know.

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Old 06-28-2007, 12:40 AM   #19
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Yes Suzanne, you do have an axel, for want of a better word, actually it connects your two axles that the hubs and wheels mount on at the ends.... the bend/arc is supposed to be there....it sets the camber angle, relationship of the angle of the wheels relative to the ground, slightly in at the bottom......if it is sagged on one side, if not because of the side to side weight distribution, then usually you`ll need a new axel ass`y.....if it isn`t adjustable, which it probably isn`t.....Benny
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:17 AM   #20
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Well, all I could do was guess on the amounts. No axle? What's that rod across the bottom? Seriously, there's a square rod, that has a slight bend in it in the center...if that's not the axle, is it a problem that curves or is it supposed to be? Is the rust an issue? The trailer was leaning over a bit, even though the tires were inflated, and the parking lot was flat, so should that have concerned me?
The owner called it an axle, and he's the one who mentioned it needing to be rebalanced. Pads, are just foam. You guys sure know your Bolers!
Unless the rust is starting to eat its way through, then I would probably not worry about it. I think people are getting their torsion axles replaced for on the order of $600CAD (from what I've been reading)... The lean could have been a bad torsion axle or it could have been as simple as weight distribution.. You'll want someone experienced to look underneath... There is no known "rebalancing" procedure... When a seller starts blowing smoke up my adz, I tune them out and listen only to myself...

You already estimated $300 for cushions so I don't think you need to add another $300 for foam...
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:01 AM   #21
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Yes Suzanne, you do have an axel, for want of a better word, actually it connects your two axles that the hubs and wheels mount on at the ends.... the bend/arc is supposed to be there....it sets the camber angle, relationship of the angle of the wheels relative to the ground, slightly in at the bottom......if it is sagged on one side, if not because of the side to side weight distribution, then usually you`ll need a new axel ass`y.....if it isn`t adjustable, which it probably isn`t.....Benny
Hmmm- - -if it's sagged on one side, prob means that the rubber in the torsion axle is worn out ( and prob so on a '78 model) My axle was was purchased thru a trailer supply in Seattle and was about $235 (if I remember right) laid in to Eastern WA. A fresh axle should takecare of the sag. There is a whole thread just on axles and replacement on the forum. (that's where I learned ...--by lurking)
Another word of caution---- as one is looking for an fiberglass/egg etc, don't leap on the first one you stumble across, and do your research. In fact I think I spotted a Compact sitting outside of Cle Elum Sun nite on the way home, am gonna take another look today when buzzing home fro Tacoma, and will investigate SAt on a road trip. Think you might be interested? PM me. Larry
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Old 06-28-2007, 02:00 PM   #22
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Make sure to check the frame out first, that can be a huge expense if there are issues with it. Biggest caution on my part.

I aquired a 75 Boler this year for about $2000 and I put about the same into it so far.

$300 cushion covers from Scamp
$375 cushions from Labbee here in Calgary
$200 tires
$100 New tail lights and marker lights
Etc.

We could have survived with some stuff that was replace, but 30 year old cushions just had to go I was told.

The little things make up the rest and I am still not done.

I read above someone stated to not jump into things, best advice ever!

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Old 06-29-2007, 09:55 PM   #23
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YIKES I BOUGHT IT! See the little lean? Just an hour ago. Oh well, it was only $1800. Aside: I went to go buy a Jeep Cherokee 3 weeks ago, and the dealer said "buy the trailer with it and it'll only be $10K"--it was a 2003 Casita, which I sold recently for $10.5K, so I got a "free" car and an oldy moldy Boler for a sum total of $1300...not too bad! I don't want to "flip" this or anything, I only inquired about resale because it's good to know. Now, I guess I attack mechanical first, put off cosmetic for later...
I must've driven past it 5 times over the last week, couldn't decide...I took it for a good tow, no sounds, nothing apparently wrong, it's like it wasn't even there, easy to hitch up, my kids are totally unimpressed because it's smoky and has some mold, but they can see that it's "cute" nonetheless. I'd owned a Class C with the frills, I hated the black water etc., never really used the bathroom much...this is just beautiful simplicity. A solid wall against the elements and a locked door against (who?).
I was thinking of going to Les Schwab Tires (Seattle area) for new wheels, have them look at the belly...do they do that?--well, I'll call. Seems this is my new project! I'll replace the floor with laminate, I'll reupholster, recoat, buff, take off the stickers depicting an old guy in his boxers shooting a deer...should be a good little investment to take the worry out of camping (I hope). THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INPUT--I'm sure I'll have questions.
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OH, thanks for the information!...I'm glad, since I bought it...they're spendy up here in PNW Seattle/Vancouver...you can get one in Saskatchewan or Edmunton, for in the $1900-2900 range...I've not seen any bargains, there's some funky ones going for $7900, I noticed one for $3600 that sold on eBay ---it was black and it said "Playboy Mansion" on it!
I'm getting tires/wheels checked out before doing any cosmetic work
Thank-you, I'll be telling the mechanic about what you said.

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Yes Suzanne, you do have an axel, for want of a better word, actually it connects your two axles that the hubs and wheels mount on at the ends.... the bend/arc is supposed to be there....it sets the camber angle, relationship of the angle of the wheels relative to the ground, slightly in at the bottom......if it is sagged on one side, if not because of the side to side weight distribution, then usually you`ll need a new axel ass`y.....if it isn`t adjustable, which it probably isn`t.....Benny
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Old 06-29-2007, 10:10 PM   #25
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AWW too late, I took the "leap" a few hours ago. You know I factor in the "here and now" quotient...it was close by, and, life's a bit of a gamble. It towed nicely, cosmetic stuff is doable (I am remodeling a house so it's like a miniaturized effort)---I may get a rotten surprise at the mechanic's but I did clear the deal and made out well overall, can't complain.

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Hmmm- - -if it's sagged on one side, prob means that the rubber in the torsion axle is worn out ( and prob so on a '78 model) My axle was was purchased thru a trailer supply in Seattle and was about $235 (if I remember right) laid in to Eastern WA. A fresh axle should takecare of the sag. There is a whole thread just on axles and replacement on the forum. (that's where I learned ...--by lurking)
Another word of caution---- as one is looking for an fiberglass/egg etc, don't leap on the first one you stumble across, and do your research. In fact I think I spotted a Compact sitting outside of Cle Elum Sun nite on the way home, am gonna take another look today when buzzing home fro Tacoma, and will investigate SAt on a road trip. Think you might be interested? PM me. Larry
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Old 06-29-2007, 10:19 PM   #26
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Well, I hope I don't get a bad surprise at the mechanics...I just drove it around, it seems fine...will post results (I thought I was over-agonizing, maybe I didn't agonize the right way?)
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:08 AM   #27
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YIKES I BOUGHT IT! See the little lean?
This trailer appears to be eggsactly what you want...congratulations.

Suzanne, now that I've seen a picture....the "lean" you think you are seeing is actually the body....the body is supposed to hang down lower on the door side of these older trailers. I think for the most part, the body was "evened out" on newer bodies.
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:18 PM   #28
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Suzanne,

Congratulations and welcome to the fixemup club.
Will look forward to following your progress and post lots of pics as you go along.
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