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Old 08-12-2010, 11:54 AM   #15
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I've removed the closet, but I don't have a more up-to-date picture.
Perfect. Thanks!
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:59 PM   #16
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The empty shell, stripped except for the ensolite, is close to 400 pounds. I've got it mounted on a fake wood frame that is sitting on a large dolly to make it easier to roll around the garage. There are only two contact points from the frame to the dolly. I put the bathroom scale under each in turn, so the 400 pounds includes my fake frame. The fake frame consists of two eight foot 2x4s and two four foot 2x4s. It doesn't weight much. The rear weight was 180 pounds and the front weight was 220 pounds. I think the rear weight was less than the front because the rear cross piece is closer to the edge of the shell than the front cross piece.
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Old 08-12-2010, 09:33 PM   #17
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The empty shell, stripped except for the ensolite, is close to 400 pounds. I've got it mounted on a fake wood frame that is sitting on a large dolly to make it easier to roll around the garage. There are only two contact points from the frame to the dolly. I put the bathroom scale under each in turn, so the 400 pounds includes my fake frame. The fake frame consists of two eight foot 2x4s and two four foot 2x4s. It doesn't weight much. The rear weight was 180 pounds and the front weight was 220 pounds. I think the rear weight was less than the front because the rear cross piece is closer to the edge of the shell than the front cross piece.
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WAG'n here ....

Shell 375#
Trailer 200#
Windows and door: 100#
Floor: 75#
Cabinetry: 100#
Utilities: 50~100#

Total: 950#
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:03 PM   #18
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We think you are underestimating the weight of the "trailer" in your list. Three tires and wheels (you are going to have a spare aren't you?) are going to be 60-75 lbs., the axle about 100ish lbs, plus the frame itself, the coupler, safety chains, tongue jack...at a minimum. Depending on how you are going to use the trailer you might want a battery (up to 75 lbs.) and/or propane tank.

I have a 13 ft Boler that weighs in at 2200 lbs loaded for a weekend trip. This weight included a battery, a propane tank, a window AC, heater, 3 way frig., no water tank and no additional "toys".
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Old 08-13-2010, 09:34 AM   #19
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I should have mentioned that the shell currently does have the door and windows installed, but no closet or furniture.

200 lbs is probably a bit light for the trailer. My Boler is one of the earlier ones, and the frame was made of a very light gauge (I've seen fenders with thicker metal) C-channel. It had cracked in many places, been reinforced, cracked again and was bent. It, along with the axle/wheels/tires was probably over 200 lbs. I didn't weight it, I'm just guessing from what it took to move it around. The new frame will be stronger and heavier. I'll weigh it separately when I get a chance.

I think 1000 lbs is within reach for a stripped-down egg. That assumes you don't have any appliances (fridge/stove/furnace), water tank, battery or much of anything in it besides the furniture. This isn't completely useless either - it sounds a lot like the Westfalia camping interior I had on my VW van. The van was a lot more convenient and comfortable than a tent.

I'll weigh each of the furniture pieces this weekend. My Boler didn't come with a furnace, but I'll weigh the fridge, sink and stove separately.
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I should have mentioned that the shell currently does have the door and windows installed, but no closet or furniture.

200 lbs is probably a bit light for the trailer. My Boler is one of the earlier ones, and the frame was made of a very light gauge (I've seen fenders with thicker metal) C-channel. It had cracked in many places, been reinforced, cracked again and was bent. It, along with the axle/wheels/tires was probably over 200 lbs. I didn't weight it, I'm just guessing from what it took to move it around. The new frame will be stronger and heavier. I'll weigh it separately when I get a chance.

I think 1000 lbs is within reach for a stripped-down egg. That assumes you don't have any appliances (fridge/stove/furnace), water tank, battery or much of anything in it besides the furniture. This isn't completely useless either - it sounds a lot like the Westfalia camping interior I had on my VW van. The van was a lot more convenient and comfortable than a tent.

I'll weigh each of the furniture pieces this weekend. My Boler didn't come with a furnace, but I'll weigh the fridge, sink and stove separately.
Thanks Peter, you are going above and beyond

I have seen some alternative cabinetry that looks very minimal and functional. Smaller, no doors or lighter door materials. Perhaps even framed/trussed structures instead of fully enclosed.
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Old 08-13-2010, 09:45 AM   #21
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No problem. I'm also curious as to how much each of the pieces weigh, and this seems like a good place to document it.
I don't have a front bunk, so I won't be able to provide a weight for that. My Boler had the rare corner bathroom option, so no front bunk. The previous owner took out the bathroom and the corner seat that was opposite the bathroom and constructed a front bench out of 2x4s and 3/4" plywood. It wasn't light. All I've got to show for the original bathroom is marks in the ensolite and floor where the walls and seat were and a roof vent in the corner.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:41 PM   #22
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Cabinetry:

Closet: 15 lbs + 10 lb door
Rear Benches: 12 lbs + 3 lb cover each
Top Galley Cupboard: 15 lbs including doors
Bottom Galley Cupboard: 15 lbs not including any doors or appliances
Table and swing-down leg: 25 lbs

Total: 110lbs

Appliances:

3-way Fridge: 40 lbs
Two-burner cooktop: 15 lbs
Sink: 3 lbs
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:31 PM   #23
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Smile You don't want to remove structural elements!

My Trillium, stripped, would still have a kitchen counter with back splash and overhead cabinets, seats in all four corners, and a closet next to the door. All these pieces are glassed into the trailer and form part of the structure of the egg which gives it its strength.
About the only glass elements that would be removeable would be the two "U" shelves at the ends.
In order to use: the seats need covers for the large access holes, the cabinets need doors or they would be useless; electrics are needed for towing, running lights, tail lights, etc. One would also need some window covering. Newspaper would work, I suppose. I would guess about 1300 lbs in this condition.
With just a few things in it, I weighed it at 1700 lbs.
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:23 PM   #24
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You definitely still need the structural elements like the closet and the kitchen upper and lower cabinets. The trailer isn't all that useful without the rear benches and table. You could try building them lighter than the originals, but I think it would be difficult to shave a significant amount of weight off and still be structurally sound. I weighed the original fiberglass pieces and posted their weights in case anyone decides to try to build something lighter.

Just so there's no confusion:

Only the interior cabinetry was stripped when weighed, so my 400lb empty shell weight includes doors, windows, exterior lights and the wiring required for the exterior lights. It also has the propane hoses/pipes/regulator for a fridge and cooktop. It does not include the frame and drop floor. It does not include exterior fixtures required for shore power and water.

These weights are all done with my '71 Boler's original shell and cabinets. Newer and/or different trailers may be lighter or, more likely, heavier.
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1400 lb. limit on TV? With or W/O brakes on trailer?

(We have approached this subject before and it always helps to have a few more specifics. Thanks.)

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