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Brian B-P · 01-09-2007, 12:19 PM

This name for a pass sounded so silly I had to look it up. There's a summary from Recreation.gov, and it uses the whole phrase "America the Beautiful – National Parks and Federal Recreational Lands Pass" fifteen times and never resorts to an acronym (which would be ATBNPAFRLP?) - I'm amazed. This page and the National Park Service page about passes name and describe the old "Golden" passes which are being replaced.

According to the Department of the Interior press release, this is really new; I'm not surprised that there is some confusion.

jack maloney · 01-09-2007, 09:43 PM

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and never resorts to an acronym (which would be ATBNPAFRLP?)

For us older folks, it would be ATBNPAFRLP-SP - pronounced AT-BEN-PAFFERLIP-SIP.

Pete Dumbleton · 01-10-2007, 08:01 PM

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Pete do you have links to these Books?

Here's an Amazon link to Don Wright's Free Camping Books (Eastern and Western Editions, with 'free' being defined as $12 or less (which means that a $20 CG, which would only cost a GA Card holder $10, wouldn't actually be listed) -- He also includes walkin or boatin sites, so one has to read carefully, plus sometimes he only gives a Park or NF/BLM Hq address without listing the locations of the actual sites.

Here's an Amazon Link to Camping with the Corps (of Engineers).

Here's a general Amazon Link to Camping in Natl Parks because I couldn't find the book I have and it's packed away right now.

If I am going to be in a state for a while, I will take a look at the DeLorme's Gazeteer for that state to see if its editor (different info for different states) put the actual locations of Natl Forest/BLM CGs on the maps -- If so, I'll get it -- Otherwise, I stop at the NF hqs for each forest and pick up lists and maps of that forest.

Byron Kinnaman · 01-10-2007, 08:58 PM

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If I am going to be in a state for a while, I will take a look at the DeLorme's Gazeteer for that state to see if its editor (different info for different states) put the actual locations of Natl Forest/BLM CGs on the maps -- If so, I'll get it -- Otherwise, I stop at the NF hqs for each forest and pick up lists and maps of that forest.

I believe that most of the PNW National Forest camp ground information is on line. BLM has just released a new web site with their sites .

Link to BLM Site.
Link to PNW National Forests.

Joy A · 01-12-2007, 01:31 AM

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Here's an Amazon link to Don Wright's Free Camping Books (Eastern and Western Editions, with 'free' being defined as $12 or less (which means that a $20 CG, which would only cost a GA Card holder $10, wouldn't actually be listed) -- He also includes walkin or boatin sites, so one has to read carefully, plus sometimes he only gives a Park or NF/BLM Hq address without listing the locations of the actual sites.

Here's an Amazon Link to Camping with the Corps (of Engineers).

Here's a general Amazon Link to Camping in Natl Parks because I couldn't find the book I have and it's packed away right now.

I've seen all of the books Pete mentions above at Camping World, and I think I purchased one or two of mine from them. You may pay less from Amazon but would incur shipping. If you have CW near by check it out.

jack maloney · 01-12-2007, 07:44 AM

We generally avoid National Park Campgrounds, preferring the surrounding National Forest CGs, quieter, less crowded, more natural. When we visit Yellowstone NP, for example, we stay in the lovely Eagle Creek CG just a few miles outside the East Entrance, and drive into the park for the day.

jim munson · 01-12-2007, 07:04 PM

We have used AAA for 50 years. Just rip out the motel section. My navigator copies camp ground notes into the the latest issue. The books are part of the membership and usually accurate.
The Stienstra books are good too but campgrounds do change even disappear.

Pete Dumbleton · 01-13-2007, 07:15 PM

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I believe that most of the PNW National Forest camp ground information is on line. BLM has just released a new web site with their sites .

Link to BLM Site.
Link to PNW National Forests.

The advantages to the map books is that one need not be on line (important to Full Timer or multi-week traveler in remote area) and if the CGs are marked, they are marked right there on your map.

Byron Kinnaman · 01-13-2007, 08:59 PM

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The advantages to the map books is that one need not be on line (important to Full Timer or multi-week traveler in remote area) and if the CGs are marked, they are marked right there on your map.

Agreed.
However armed with those sites you can print out the list of campgrounds in the area you might be in. I plan on carrrying with me this summer the list of Forest Service and BLM campgrounds for Washington and Oregon. Mostly the western part of both states. I also have mapping software on my computer that I can plug in the approximate locations then I have the whole thing. I can print out ahead of time if I like.

Ron N · 01-13-2007, 11:10 PM

Byron,

Thanks for the BLM website imfo. Boondockers like me appreciate it!!

Ron

Vivian · 02-12-2007, 11:39 PM

This is a great website: www.freecampgrounds.com A lot of small town city parks are listed as well as the usual Wal-Mart locations that still allow overnight camping.
I checked some areas with which I am familiar and found the information to be accurate and many of the comments made within the past year.

Vivian

**Mary F** · 02-13-2007, 08:58 AM

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This is a great website: www.freecampgrounds.com A lot of small town city parks are listed as well as the usual Wal-Mart locations that still allow overnight camping.
I checked some areas with which I am familiar and found the information to be accurate and many of the comments made within the past year.

Vivian

And it's listed among others on our Helpful-Links > RV Campgrounds page. [b]Thanks for the reminder, Vivian!