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Old 11-28-2007, 06:30 PM   #29
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phil! you and the missus want to go down to matagorda with us????
we have an 85 Scamp 13 with working bunks and don't mind sharing quarters!
Might take your mind off things for awhile!
We could swing by and pick you all up or meet somewhere.
Let me know. We plan to leave for down there on morning of 6th.

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Old 11-28-2007, 06:38 PM   #30
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phil! you and the missus want to go down to matagorda with us????
we have an 85 Scamp 13 with working bunks and don't mind sharing quarters!
Might take your mind off things for awhile!
We could swing by and pick you all up or meet somewhere.
Let me know. We plan to leave for down there on morning of 6th.
thats what im talking about.. The people on this forum are great.. Thanks for the offer Bill and Sandra but we are heading out friday to pick up a 17ft Casita here is a pic of it...
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:18 PM   #31
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Also glad nobody was hurt. What is a Bull Dog clamp style hitch? Can anyone suggest preventive measures to keep this from happening to someone else? It worries me!

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Old 11-28-2007, 10:36 PM   #32
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thats what im talking about.. The people on this forum are great.. Thanks for the offer Bill and Sandra but we are heading out friday to pick up a 17ft Casita here is a pic of it...
So Phil, this one looks pretty nice, when you fix the other one up gonna keep em both or sell one? Which one do you think you'd sell?
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:16 PM   #33
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So Phil, this one looks pretty nice, when you fix the other one up gonna keep em both or sell one? Which one do you think you'd sell?

no idea... i know we dont need two of em..
the 17ft doesnt have a bathroom/shower , but has king size bed and bunkbeds..

Prolly get rid of the 16ft... may not even fix it... just sell it as is
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:06 AM   #34
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Sure glad no one was hurt. Your tow definately was an advantage. I also agree that the bulldog hitch is the only way to go. They are strong made out of cast iron, and have a very secure latching system. Many industrial trailers use the bulldog hitch. I have one on my Compact II.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:57 PM   #35
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What is a Bull Dog clamp style hitch?
Bulldog is one of the Cequent brands of towing equipment. They make more than one style of coupler (note: not "hitch"), but the one they are known for has a "clamp" design; their distinctive "clamp" style is actually forged, while they also have a more conventional cast line. The Bulldog web site leads to the Cequent catalog (showing both Bulldog styles), and the Oliver Legacy site shows the forged unit on their moulded fiberglass travel trailer.

The Bulldog "clamp" design has one side of the socket opening on a hinge, and holds it closed with a sliding collar.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:02 PM   #36
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Can anyone suggest preventive measures to keep this from happening to someone else?
With no information about what caused the failure, or even what brand or rating of coupler was involved, it's hard for me to imagine how an appropriate preventative measure could be determined.

While this failure is certainly scary, it is so extraordinarily rare that I'm not worried about it.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:40 PM   #37
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thats what im talking about.. The people on this forum are great.. Thanks for the offer Bill and Sandra but we are heading out friday to pick up a 17ft Casita here is a pic of it...
ultra cool! you comin' down! we'd all love to give you some hugs you might need!
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All i can say is that the metal on the coupler was very thin, and this was a 1 7/8 ball..
when i rewelded it added some reinforement plates all the way around.
That may be the answer -- Typically, 1 7/8" balls and couplers are actually only rated (see stamps in metal) for 2,000 lbs. A quick look indicates that they might not even make the A-frame coupler in 1 7/8" any more.

I replaced my 1 7/8" standard ball for one from UHaul that's rated for 5,000 lbs, as are many of the multi-ball hitch heads.

Some years ago, Casita uprated even the C13 to a 2" setup and I believe Scamp has recently done likewise. Once again we are seeing the effect of options and personal cargo on the actual, scale weight of the trailers, compared to the "paper" weights of the past.

It would be informative to get the actual weight of the trailer once it has been repaired, although the coupler may have been stressed by a previous owner by overloading or waaaay too much tongue weight.

Anyone out there with a 1 7/8" coupler on a 16' or larger trailer, or on a heavy 13' trailer should keep a close eye on all the components. Or consider upsizing to a 2" coupler and ball.

BTW, Bulldog apparently makes several styles of couplers, but even the ones with the forged clamp seem to use sheet metal at the same place where this coupler failed.
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That may be the answer -- Typically, 1 7/8" balls and couplers are actually only rated (see stamps in metal) for 2,000 lbs. A quick look indicates that they might not even make the A-frame coupler in 1 7/8" any more.

Some years ago, Casita uprated even the C13 to a 2" setup and I believe Scamp has recently done likewise. Once again we are seeing the effect of options and personal cargo on the actual, scale weight of the trailers, compared to the "paper" weights of the past.
nice info Pete, thanks for sharing...


Bill & Sandra , a big thank you goes out to you guys
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I am wondering if in your rigs former life it was jack knifed or somehow other stressed at that point but did not break. Leaving you with the surprise when it finally failed from added stresses.

My Coleman had the coupler tweaked and the former owner fully disclosed that it was torqued when she backed into a wall. It was a straight coupler tho, like a Uhaul.

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I am wondering if in your rigs former life it was jack knifed or somehow other stressed at that point but did not break. Leaving you with the surprise when it finally failed from added stresses.

My Coleman had the coupler tweaked and the former owner fully disclosed that it was torqued when she backed into a wall. It was a straight coupler tho, like a Uhaul.
Not sure, all i can say is the previous owner used it alot, took it to Alaska twice and before that, when it was new it was a Casita demo for one of the owners.

And the roads and heavy constuction in Lousianna were the worst we have ever been through, it was very bumpy
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Old 12-01-2007, 06:09 PM   #42
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The thing that worries me all most as much as the frame failure is the fact that the safety chains didn't do their job. Exactly where or how did they fail??
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