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Old 09-17-2009, 06:12 AM   #15
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All other shine products are a waste of time and do not last for me Poli-Glow is the way to go.
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:48 AM   #16
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Ok I know that Poli Glow is great for gel coats. My trailer had some damaged firberglass which I repaired then I painted the entire trailer with a Marine paint formulated for Fiberglass. I rolled it on and was and am very satisfied with the result. Could I get more gloss by using Poli Glow over this paint?
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:02 AM   #17
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Hi: All... It's my understanding Poly Glo is not for new fiberglass trailers or new paint. It is only for restoration of old chaulky/dull fiberglass. On our '07 Escape it wouldn't work any better than a good wax job. Here's a pic. of a Meguires shine. Labour Day at Niagara Falls!!!
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:36 PM   #18
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I'm new here, but have previous experience with Poliglow.

I have a 25' sailboat that has been maintained with Poliglow for years before it came into my possession. The shine on the hull is fantastic. After prolonged use however, the glow will start to fade. It will still look waxy, but instead of a crisp, clean looking finish you will start to see yellowing in the finish.

Its the same as you used to get on the old kitchen floor that you waxed over and over, and that's because Poli-glow is very similar to floor wax chemically. Possibly the same, although the manufacturers won't say boo about that.

Once the wax starts to yellow, Poliglow sells a stripping formula. It is very strong (don't breathe in!), but strips 90% of the wax off just the same as floor stripper used to do on the kitchen floor. If you ever have to use it, wear a mask. Interestingly, a can of easy-off oven cleaner will also go a long way to stripping the wax off fibreglass, but don't leave it on too long, or the Easy-Off will eat into the gelcoat.

Here is our boat with the wax being stripped and lettering applied... http://littleboatiris.blogspot.com/2009/05...ng-weekend.html

In the pics you can see the lines where the Poli-glow was removed and the original gel-coat is exposed. There is a distinct difference.

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Old 09-20-2009, 09:30 AM   #19
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Colin did you order it on line or did you find someone in BC that sells it?

Sorry for the delay, I have been on the road with the Bigfoot. The highlight of the trip for me , was in Oliver BC when a gentleman approached me in a campground and said he was very pleased to see that Bigfoot had started manufacturing the 19' again . In answer to your question Carol, I did find a source for Poli Glow in Vancouver B.C. The vendor did seem a bit disorganised for on line sales and would not accept a Credit card. But he did mail the kit to me and I sent him a cheque when the Poli Glow arrived. I will look up his details and post them.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:50 AM   #20
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Sorry for the delay, I have been on the road with the Bigfoot. The highlight of the trip for me , was in Oliver BC when a gentleman approached me in a campground and said he was very pleased to see that Bigfoot had started manufacturing the 19' again . In answer to your question Carol, I did find a source for Poli Glow in Vancouver B.C. The vendor did seem a bit disorganised for on line sales and would not accept a Credit card. But he did mail the kit to me and I sent him a cheque when the Poli Glow arrived. I will look up his details and post them.

It did not take me as long as I thought it would to find the details. The company was Windhopper Enterprises and the owner is Mr. Ram Thavamany at 604 837 4344 E-mail :- ram[at]windhopper.biz / www.windhopper.biz
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Old 09-22-2009, 12:32 PM   #21
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........Its the same as you used to get on the old kitchen floor that you waxed over and over, and that's because Poli-glow is very similar to floor wax chemically. Possibly the same, although the manufacturers won't say boo about that. .......

Chrs- similar to which floor wax? The only one I can think of is maybe Futura.
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Old 09-22-2009, 02:10 PM   #22
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Chrs- similar to which floor wax? The only one I can think of is maybe Futura.
I can't find the email now, but a chemist friend of mine looked into the polimers used in poliglow to find a better way to remove it than using the stripper suggested by the manufacturer when we went to apply our decals. his feedback was that we should try straight ammonia or floor stripper, that failing, turn to the oven cleaner, but be quick to remove before it did lasting damage to the gelcoat. Sorry I can't find any better info for you.

Before we used the Easy-off, I tried wetsanding the hull, and found that the Poliglow does build up little layers of wax on the FG. I agree that it is probably the best thing to use to get your gelcoat shiny again, but I would humbly suggest that you remain prepared to strip it every 5 or 10 seasons to get rid of the buildup. I think Poliglow has words to that effect on the package.
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Old 10-01-2009, 06:48 PM   #23
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I can't find the email now, but a chemist friend of mine looked into the polimers used in poliglow to find a better way to remove it than using the stripper suggested by the manufacturer when we went to apply our decals. his feedback was that we should try straight ammonia or floor stripper, that failing, turn to the oven cleaner, but be quick to remove before it did lasting damage to the gelcoat. Sorry I can't find any better info for you.

Before we used the Easy-off, I tried wetsanding the hull, and found that the Poliglow does build up little layers of wax on the FG. I agree that it is probably the best thing to use to get your gelcoat shiny again, but I would humbly suggest that you remain prepared to strip it every 5 or 10 seasons to get rid of the buildup. I think Poliglow has words to that effect on the package.
poliglow is floor wax isnt it?
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Old 10-01-2009, 09:46 PM   #24
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I can't find the email now, but a chemist friend of mine looked into the polimers used in poliglow to find a better way to remove it than using the stripper suggested by the manufacturer when we went to apply our decals. his feedback was that we should try straight ammonia or floor stripper, that failing, turn to the oven cleaner, but be quick to remove before it did lasting damage to the gelcoat. Sorry I can't find any better info for you.

Before we used the Easy-off, I tried wetsanding the hull, and found that the Poliglow does build up little layers of wax on the FG. I agree that it is probably the best thing to use to get your gelcoat shiny again, but I would humbly suggest that you remain prepared to strip it every 5 or 10 seasons to get rid of the buildup. I think Poliglow has words to that effect on the package.
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I have applied 1 additional coat this year and the shine is still very good, some people think it is a new trailer and when I tell them it is a 1972 they can't believe it. When I have to take it off I will use a odorless floor stripper. I run a cleaning company and have excess to all the products I need and their is almost no cost except for $15.00 for a gal of finish
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:15 PM   #25
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I've just started to restore the outside of our 1975 trillium. Chalky is the best way to describe the condition the outside was in when we received it. It has since been well soaped & washed, lightly pressure washed and scrubbed with borax to get the majority of the grime off. after getting it good and clean i was anxious to see what it was going to take to get some shine happening, here is what I did:
I picked a corner and gave it a good rubbing with some gel gloss (really good for acrylic tubs and similar indoor fixtures). I then picked another spot directly beside and went at it first with some turtle wax rubbing compound, then some turtle wax polishing compound and then a bit of carnauba wax.
In both cases i got enough shine to feel like I had accomplished something, but not what i would call a deep gloss.
Not completely satisfied, I decided to try wet sanding a test spot on another corner. I started with 600 grit, then worked up to 1000, then 1500, 2000 and then some polishing compound. that is when I started to appreciate how deep the oxidation damage really is. By removing a bit more of the surface I was able to get the gelcoat really smoothed out and the difference was night and day compared to my other attempts. There are areas in the gelcoat that I thought had some microscopic black flecks added as part of the original colour. Turns out this is grime that is embedded in the pits of oxidation. After a bit of sanding, looking really close in some of these areas I could tell the surface was pitted. A bit more elbow grease and the finish looks restored.
My conclusions from this are that an oxidized trailer can be given a bit of shine by throwing a coat of wax on but if the surface quality isn't dealt with that coat of wax will see more dirt sticking to its less even surface and will have microscopic dirt in spots between it and the finish. Likely resulting in it fadeing much quicker.
Poli-glo is an option, for me I would rather try to restore the existing gelcoat first than bond a layer of (synthetic wax?) that i might have to fight to take off in the future.
I'll be buying two compounds to achieve the final polish after wet sanding: Farecla profile 300 and profile 500, this i'll be like the turtle wax polishing compound but much better quality, used in manufacturing for gelcoat products to remove any mould defects or imperfections. I have found an acrylic repair shop in town that uses and carries Farecla products.

Sorry that got a bit long winded, just eager to share my experience.

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Old 10-18-2009, 08:27 PM   #26
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Kevin,

What you have reported echos my experience with fiberglass boats. I've found either a good compound (I used 3M, but have also used Meguiars), or wetsanding paper (about 600 to 1500 grit) to yield the best results.

With the compound, I also found that I need to use a good strong buffer, something like a big Milwaukee. When I did my first boat, I first tried a "homeowner" buffer from Home Depot -- no go. Once I rented the big metal Milwaukee (used a 3M Superbuff type pad on it), I got some real gloss going

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Old 10-19-2009, 08:57 PM   #27
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I've recently purchased a 1996 Casita 16' LD that has lived it's life in Texas & the Southwest. The gel coat is certainly highly oxidized. I diddled with several polishing & rubbing compounds (3M & Turtle Wax) and was not impressed with the results given the effort. Reading this thread I recalled that 5 years or so ago I had Poli-prepped & Poli-Glowed my Precision 18 sailboat. I tried the Poly-Prep cleaner and it worked much better than the paste polishes or compounds for restoring the gelcoat. If the weather holds out, I'll continue this cleaning.

I endorse and recommend the Poli-Glow product based on past and current experience. I have no connection with this outfit, just saying their stuff works for me compared to other products on highly oxidized gelcoat.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:36 PM   #28
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Thanks to this great thread, I just ordered my Poli Glow kit. Can't wait.
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