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Old 05-15-2011, 04:11 PM   #99
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Hi: Rodre... If you have a Princess Auto store in your neck of the woods you could go there and see if they have any trailer axles in stock...they sometimes do!!! Check them for the bend it should be standard equipment from the factory. Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie
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Old 05-15-2011, 04:18 PM   #100
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Just a real quick axel tip for anyone researching buying one.
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Whats crazy is that if i had used my measurements and bought my dexter it would not have fit. they insisted they order some flexride from
Alberta and it is adjustable, which turned out to be lucky because we had to make it higher than the fixed axel i was going to order to made it clear the door side where it sticks out a bit.
Keep in mind that the arm lengths and ride heights are different for the two manufacturers.

For either, buying the bolt on kit, makes a big difference when it comes to change in the future. No welding involved.
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Old 05-15-2011, 09:53 PM   #101
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Keep in mind that the arm lengths and ride heights are different for the two manufacturers.

For either, buying the bolt on kit, makes a big difference when it comes to change in the future. No welding involved.

I had to ask rv people where to go to get an axel installed, I had no idea. Hub City Springs here in Nanaimo did it for me. The ride it way better, the boler doesnt bounce as much (kind of obvious i know) but for me, what is also important, is my impression that I am putting far less stress on my frame. In a further post when i get some photos together I will tell a story about how before my new axel my frame on one side just under the front of the shell broke clear through and was hanging by the other side only. -frame welded - reinforced -new axel. (no money or time for proper frame off restoration)
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:35 PM   #102
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Dexter Didn't make a Torsion Axle Until 1986

I just got off the phone with the very imformative lady at Dexter Warranty Department. As soon as I mentioned the "KA-" in my hub's part number she said that I didn't have a Dexter hub but a Kelsey one. She further told me that Kelsey was purchased by Hayes and became Kelsey-Hayes, which was later purchased by AL-CO Kober. She went on to tell me that if I had a torsion axle in my '78 trailer that it was definitely NOT a Dexter as they didn't make a torsion/Torflex axle until 1986 when they purchased some Canadian Axle company (she couldn't remember the name). When I suggested that she may be mistaken, as many people who owned older trailers were mentioning they had a Dexter torsion axle in them. She said that she had been working there since 1985 and distinctly remembers Dexter purchasing the other company for the torsion axle shortly after she started working there. Well, at least now I know my hubs are Kelsey hubs.

Thebend in my axle is not in the center, but more towards the side by the door. I think it may be the result of a bad jacking attempt. I will have to take it to a shop to have it inspected. If it needs a replacement I may just wait until next year when I am considering to take the frame off to do a complete sand blasting and painting of the frame. Has anyone tried sandblasting and painting the frame with the body still attached?

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Old 05-16-2011, 04:38 PM   #103
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HOLEE SMOKES!

"The Dexter axle is what you have" has been the Mantra here FOREVER!!!
I can't even imagine the magnitude of the controversy that may be about to erupt...
Be nice to Rodre, everybody! He's trying to help us as well as himslf!
Thanks for the info, Rodre!

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Old 05-16-2011, 04:45 PM   #104
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Francesca, Just sit back and watch.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:38 PM   #106
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I am just repeating what the lady at Dexter told me. I can't confirm or deny what she told me, other then the fact that I appear to have Kelsey hubs on my trailer as confirmed by the cast in mdel number, and that the other information she mentions regarding the various sales and owners of Kelsey axle appears to be true from my small effort of searching the web. She seemed pretty knowledgeable on the phone, if you don't believe me just call Dexter and ask for the warranty department and I am pretty sure you will get the same lady. Just mention the torsion axle on your 197x trailer and see that she has to say and make up your own mind.

If she is correct about Dexter not manufacturing a torsion axle before 1986 then perhaps these axles on the older Trillium's are from the Canadian company that Dexter purchased in the mid 80's.

The only other thing I can say is that Tom Young of Trillium fame told me in person and face to face that they are using the same axle in the Trilliums that they are building now as the ones they used 30 years ago. So go figure...

If I am about to be flamed bring it on...

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Old 05-16-2011, 05:44 PM   #107
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Wow Kelsey Hayes, I had a set of aluminum tricks on a '73 Z28, They were Kelsey Hayes and the tire store broke one and they could not find one anywhere in the country , that was in '84 or '85.
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:23 PM   #108
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If she is correct about Dexter not manufacturing a torsion axle before 1986 then perhaps these axles on the older Trillium's are from the Canadian company that Dexter purchased in the mid 80's.

The only other thing I can say is that Tom Young of Trillium fame told me in person and face to face that they are using the same axle in the Trilliums that they are building now as the ones they used 30 years ago. So go figure...

If I am about to be flamed bring it on...

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I hope you didn't take what I said the wrong way, Rodre-
It's practically Holy Writ around here that everybody has a Dexter. I've seen knock-down-dragouts over much smaller matters!
As it turns out you and your source at Dexter are ab-so-tive-ly CORRECT, as two minutes of research has turned up
Since Trilliums were out of productions for many years before the molds went on the road again in the early "oughts", Tom Young may be unaware of the facts you've unearthed.
We owe you a debt of gratitude for bringing this to our attention!
I actually (gasp) looked in my 1978Trillium's owner's manual, and found that-I've got a "Rub-R-Ride" axle!!!
There isn't a copy of this manual in the Docs center here, but somebody laboriously typed in the contents into a thread in 2007.
Here's what the manual says:

From:Post #10 at Vintage Trillium Owners Manual
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Your Trillium sits on a computer designed and tested frame and a patented Rub-R-Ride independent suspension system.

And here's all that's left of Rub-R-Ride
From:Rub-r-ride: Trademark by Ingersoll Machine and Tool Company Limited
RUB-R-RIDE
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RUB-R-RIDE

Canada Trademark #TMA165696

Basic Data

Word Mark RUB-R-RIDE
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Registration Number TMA165696
Registration Date Oct 10, 1969
Filing Date Nov 27, 1968
Status Expunged
Serial Number 0317986
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INGERSOLL MACHINE AND TOOL COMPANY LIMITED
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Goods (1) A suspension unit for trailer axles.

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There you have it!

Thanks a million, Rodre

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Thats great, it looks like everyone is correct! But now why I have Kelsey Hubs on my Ingersol/Dexter axle/Possibly Kelsey Axle is going to require some more researh. The lady at Dexter also mentioned that at that time most of the major parts were intercfhangeable between manufacturers and that perhaps trillium just used whatever hubs were readily available (maybe there was a great hub shortage in '78? :P ) or that the previous owner wanted to upgrade from 7" to 10" brakes, which seems overkill to me. The wiring is definitely factory so I am confused why a guy who barely used this thing, as the wear on the original tires verifys (unless he used it so much that he bought new goodyear a13 tires before they went out of production), would upgrade the brakes from 7" to 10" unless he had it packed full while driving or was just extra cautious, which I don't doubt as he was very meticulous about the way he went about things.

I didn't tale your comments the wrong way at all, and yes, I have been beat up over smaller things, allbeit not on this forum.

I think I sshould have my status updated from junior memeber to member for providing the true identity of our Ingersoll axles :P
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Don't look now but it updated, I think it does that after a certain # of post'.
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I think I should have my status updated from junior member to member for providing the true identity of our Ingersoll axles :P
I think you should have your status updated to KING!

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Old 05-16-2011, 08:37 PM   #112
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I think I sshould have my status updated from junior memeber to member for providing the true identity of our Ingersoll axles :P
Man look at you go! Its a shame you couldnt have brought the trailer out this week-end and have the boys confirmed what the cause of bend is one way or another for you. Hope you where able to pick up some helpful info from them anyways. Bring it out to the Scambled Egg Meet in July.

Now go take a seat at your new table and pour a beer and act like a king!
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