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Old 02-22-2007, 10:25 AM   #21
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There is some other makes out there as well: the Egg Camper is one. Which is made like the old U-Haul trailers. It is 17' model.

http://www.eggcamper.com/
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:39 PM   #22
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I run 15" wheels/tires on my Scamp...but I also changed the axle.

I thought Scamp raised the 5th wheel and are now running 14" tires Don't know about the 13' or 16' tho.
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:50 PM   #23
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Looking at the brochure that Scamp mailed me on Tuesday, the Scamp 19' 5th wheel and the Scamp 16 have 13" wheels with C rated tires, whereas the 13 comes with 13" wheels with B rated tires standard. I couldn't find an option for larger wheels.

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Old 03-01-2007, 04:04 AM   #24
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Hi Carl,
My wife and I also looked closely at both Scamp and Casita this Fall. We did tour the Scamp factory to see how they are made (beyond what the free DVD shows). We were impressed enough to order a 13 footer. We saw them at various stages of construction. A few things I can add to this conversation which may help you are: The frame seemed very strong. The floor is coated OSB. The shell and floor are sealed together with fiberglass and resin. It is even glassed around the wheel wells, so the floor and wall is sealed all the way around. I could see no openings anywhere on the floor at the stages we observed. Depending upon options ordered, the fiberglass is thickened where needed to compensate for added stress. For example, an overhead air conditioner requires more support in the shell. The insulated walls are a plus. The new 13 footers are 3 inches taller than ones made before the factory fire. The trailer is very light weight compared to many others. The people there are friendly, helpful and honest about what they think. They seem to go out of their way to be accommodating. We did not tour the Casita factory because of distance. I have seen one though and was impressed. In my opinion you can't go wrong with either one. Overall, we felt the Scamp was more affordable with the options we wanted. Good luck with your decision. Hope that this helped some.
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P.S. Due to expected freezing rain and snow this weekend, I called and moved our pick up date from Monday to Friday the 23rd, and they were fine with it. We are excited.
Picking up my 13 on the 22 of this month...how did everything go? Is the egg ok and are you happy with it?
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:24 AM   #25
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I am still baffled that Scamp is still using 13' tires and wheels. Many owners are using 15" wheels and at least 14" wheels and tires. The selection of higher performance tire models become greater the larger the tire thus expanding your safety margin. Say what you will but a 13" tire on a 19 foot 5th wheel? That's an odd engineering marriage.

The rest is apples and oranges in comparison. You usually get what you pay for. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Be happy as life is short.
Aside: My 16ft tandem axle Fiber Stream has 12" tires.
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:39 AM   #26
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Best advise for 12" wheels is to use the best bearing grease and make sure they have all they need.. Just think of the amount of rotations. What is the highest rated tire you are able to find for a 12" wheel?
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Old 03-01-2007, 06:34 PM   #27
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One thing to be said for 12" tires and wheels is that one can buy them right off the shelf at WalMart, Sams, CostCo, etc.

Here's some info from an old Dexter PDF on 12" tire capacity:

Size LR Cap psi
12 4.80-12,B 780 60
12 5.30-12,C 1045 80

Looks like it would be fairly easy to overload a set of Load Range B's, esp if serious attention wasn't paid to air pressure.

I haven't bothered to work out the difference, but I don't think there is much rpm difference between wheels/tires with only a one inch size difference.

I have noticed there is a trend towards larger tires on small RVs -- I believe Casita has gone to 14" tires all around and I've seen even some of the smaller Fleetwood tent trailers now have 14" tires.
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:05 AM   #28
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I noticed that a mention was made ot the Casita not having a 3 way fridge available. I though i would chime in that my 2002 13' Casita came with a 3 way fridge.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:43 AM   #29
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Pete-There are also load range D tires in 5.30 X 12. I have them on my pop-up but can't remember the rating. The guy in the shop[ thought that I was nuts for having him order them until I told him that bigger would not fit.
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Old 03-02-2007, 08:51 AM   #30
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Generally, at least it used to be, 12" wheels and tires had fewer choices for load ratings and styles. But for a real light trailer, they may be efficient.

The larger the wheel and tire, generally you can haul a heavier load due to the heavier thicker 6 and 8 ply tires available, design of the wheel itself, and air pressure. It's true Casita has 14" wheels. 15" wheels fit right on to the new high lift Casitas as well. In fact others here on the forum have already made that switch. Yes, Casitas do have a 3-way reefer.

Lack of bearing grease and not checking tire pressure is the downfall of the system no matter what size you are running. I may be paranoid but I always carry extra bearings, grease, and a good spare tire/wheel. And of course the tools it takes to change both out. Some areas are so remote, I could repair (hopefully) the problem before help ever could arrive. It will be great when satellite telephones become common and inexpensive.
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Old 03-02-2007, 10:09 AM   #31
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I know most members of FGRV "camp" with hookups or near the toilets so this may not matter to you. However, if you plan to do any boondocking, consider the tank sizes of the Scamp and Casita.

Scamp uses the same size tanks in all three trailer sizes: 12 gallon fresh water, 9 gallon black water and 26 gallon gray water.

My casita has 25 gallons fresh water, 17 gallons black water and 25 gallons gray water. I don't know the sizes of the tanks in the 13' and 16' Casita.
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:33 AM   #32
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I know most members of FGRV "camp" with hookups or near the toilets so this may not matter to you. However, if you plan to do any boondocking, consider the tank sizes of the Scamp and Casita.

Scamp uses the same size tanks in all three trailer sizes: 12 gallon fresh water, 9 gallon black water and 26 gallon gray water.

My casita has 25 gallons fresh water, 17 gallons black water and 25 gallons gray water. I don't know the sizes of the tanks in the 13' and 16' Casita.

Or you could go the other way, as I did and remove all water tanks from the trailer except for a gallon or so fresh water and a small jerry can under the sink for grey.

Our fresh water stash is carried in the back of the pickup where the added weight is more of an advantage.

Also it is kinda' like paying cash for everything. You use less when you can see exactly how much you have left and know what you have to go through to get more.
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:26 PM   #33
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Hi Carl,
Didn't know if you would be interested, I have a 16' Casita for sale. It's nice and if you would like more info. email me at tommy@kinsch.com. Price is $4500
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Old 04-22-2007, 12:18 PM   #34
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Scamp 13 deluxe bed size vs. Casita Patriot 13 deluxe bed size:

Does anyone know what the different sizes are? Scamp claims their 13 deluxe bed is larger than their 13 standard bed.

I'd like to hear from Scamp and Casita 13 deluxe owners on bed size specs.

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Old 04-22-2007, 04:51 PM   #35
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Scamp claims their 13 deluxe bed is larger than their 13 standard bed.
It's a true story. The bed in my 16' Deluxe measures 52 1/2 X 78. someone with a standard will have to give you their measurements. As an FYI...I don't THINK the bed sizes change between the 13' and the 16'
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:55 PM   #36
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Or you could go the other way, as I did and remove all water tanks from the trailer except for a gallon or so fresh water and a small jerry can under the sink for grey.

Our fresh water stash is carried in the back of the pickup where the added weight is more of an advantage.

Also it is kinda' like paying cash for everything. You use less when you can see exactly how much you have left and know what you have to go through to get more.
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You still have the camper?

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Old 04-22-2007, 08:06 PM   #37
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Speaking only from experience with a Scamp, when we went in to clean and ready our Scamp for our first outing two weeks ago we noticed even after spending the fall and winter under the carport in often windy and dusty New Mexico there was no dust inside of the Scamp. The outside was very dust covered but none inside. They are very air tight.
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:54 AM   #38
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Speaking only from experience with a Scamp, when we went in to clean and ready our Scamp for our first outing two weeks ago we noticed even after spending the fall and winter under the carport in often windy and dusty New Mexico there was no dust inside of the Scamp. The outside was very dust covered but none inside. They are very air tight.

I have owned a 15-year old Scamp and a new Casita, so it is difficult to make a truly fair comparison. One thing that has not been mentioned on this thread is the flat entry door available on the 17' Casita. In the case of my two former trailers the flat door was very air tight but the aircraft style door on the Scamp was not. I made a lot of trips on dirt roads with very fine dust. The Scamp door did allow dust to enter inside while traveling, though it was never an issue when parked. I expect that a newer Scamp would have had a tighter fitting door. The curved doors have a great look, but they can be aggravating when they get out of shape. Casita uses these doors, too, except on the 17'. I think there are some old threads on this forum about sealing these kind of doors.
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