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Old 02-22-2007, 08:27 AM   #15
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These are the things I would consider in choosing a trailer, and the order of importance (subject to change as forim members point out what I missed):

1. Floor plan
2. Price
3. Weight
4. Interior height
5. Standard options
6. Fit and finish
7. Customization options
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16. Floor construction
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56. Frame construction
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:13 AM   #16
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My wife and i are looking for a new unit.The most important thing to us is bed size.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:15 AM   #17
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I am still baffled that Scamp is still using 13' tires and wheels. Many owners are using 15" wheels and at least 14" wheels and tires. The selection of higher performance tire models become greater the larger the tire thus expanding your safety margin. Say what you will but a 13" tire on a 19 foot 5th wheel? That's an odd engineering marriage.

The rest is apples and oranges in comparison. You usually get what you pay for. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Be happy as life is short.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:47 AM   #18
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Patrick: I would pay a lot more attention to floor and frame construction. Just ask the many folks here who have had to replace floors and/or have frames repaired, reinforced or even totally replaced! No matter how well your egg's shell is made, if the frame breaks or the floor rots, you have big problems!
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:58 AM   #19
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Patrick: I would pay a lot more attention to floor and frame construction. Just ask the many folks here who have had to replace floors and/or have frames repaired, reinforced or even totally replaced! No matter how well your egg's shell is made, if the frame breaks or the floor rots, you have big problems!
I see your point, but when looking at a new trailer these are much less important. When looking at a 20-year old trailer, then the order might be:

1. Frame
2. Tires
3. Floor
4. Wall covering
5. Electrical
6. Floor plan
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:04 AM   #20
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My wife and i are looking for a new unit.The most important thing to us is bed size.
It seems Casita has floor plans which will give a larger bed size and one with twin beds as well, Scamp's Custom can be designed with a larger bed as well as the 19' would have a good sized bed.

Gary's "still baffled that Scamp is still using 13" tires and wheels," I have wondered about them as well. I have been meaning to call Scamp and ask if larger wheels would fit on them. Has anyone put 14" tires on one or 15"?

My personal feeling is to just get higher rated tires and not worry about the wheel size; get ones for a heaver load rating.

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Old 02-22-2007, 10:25 AM   #21
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There is some other makes out there as well: the Egg Camper is one. Which is made like the old U-Haul trailers. It is 17' model.

http://www.eggcamper.com/
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:39 PM   #22
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I run 15" wheels/tires on my Scamp...but I also changed the axle.

I thought Scamp raised the 5th wheel and are now running 14" tires Don't know about the 13' or 16' tho.
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:50 PM   #23
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Looking at the brochure that Scamp mailed me on Tuesday, the Scamp 19' 5th wheel and the Scamp 16 have 13" wheels with C rated tires, whereas the 13 comes with 13" wheels with B rated tires standard. I couldn't find an option for larger wheels.

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Old 03-01-2007, 04:04 AM   #24
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Hi Carl,
My wife and I also looked closely at both Scamp and Casita this Fall. We did tour the Scamp factory to see how they are made (beyond what the free DVD shows). We were impressed enough to order a 13 footer. We saw them at various stages of construction. A few things I can add to this conversation which may help you are: The frame seemed very strong. The floor is coated OSB. The shell and floor are sealed together with fiberglass and resin. It is even glassed around the wheel wells, so the floor and wall is sealed all the way around. I could see no openings anywhere on the floor at the stages we observed. Depending upon options ordered, the fiberglass is thickened where needed to compensate for added stress. For example, an overhead air conditioner requires more support in the shell. The insulated walls are a plus. The new 13 footers are 3 inches taller than ones made before the factory fire. The trailer is very light weight compared to many others. The people there are friendly, helpful and honest about what they think. They seem to go out of their way to be accommodating. We did not tour the Casita factory because of distance. I have seen one though and was impressed. In my opinion you can't go wrong with either one. Overall, we felt the Scamp was more affordable with the options we wanted. Good luck with your decision. Hope that this helped some.
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P.S. Due to expected freezing rain and snow this weekend, I called and moved our pick up date from Monday to Friday the 23rd, and they were fine with it. We are excited.
Picking up my 13 on the 22 of this month...how did everything go? Is the egg ok and are you happy with it?
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:24 AM   #25
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I am still baffled that Scamp is still using 13' tires and wheels. Many owners are using 15" wheels and at least 14" wheels and tires. The selection of higher performance tire models become greater the larger the tire thus expanding your safety margin. Say what you will but a 13" tire on a 19 foot 5th wheel? That's an odd engineering marriage.

The rest is apples and oranges in comparison. You usually get what you pay for. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Be happy as life is short.
Aside: My 16ft tandem axle Fiber Stream has 12" tires.
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:39 AM   #26
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Best advise for 12" wheels is to use the best bearing grease and make sure they have all they need.. Just think of the amount of rotations. What is the highest rated tire you are able to find for a 12" wheel?
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Old 03-01-2007, 06:34 PM   #27
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One thing to be said for 12" tires and wheels is that one can buy them right off the shelf at WalMart, Sams, CostCo, etc.

Here's some info from an old Dexter PDF on 12" tire capacity:

Size LR Cap psi
12 4.80-12,B 780 60
12 5.30-12,C 1045 80

Looks like it would be fairly easy to overload a set of Load Range B's, esp if serious attention wasn't paid to air pressure.

I haven't bothered to work out the difference, but I don't think there is much rpm difference between wheels/tires with only a one inch size difference.

I have noticed there is a trend towards larger tires on small RVs -- I believe Casita has gone to 14" tires all around and I've seen even some of the smaller Fleetwood tent trailers now have 14" tires.
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:05 AM   #28
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I noticed that a mention was made ot the Casita not having a 3 way fridge available. I though i would chime in that my 2002 13' Casita came with a 3 way fridge.
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