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Old 06-02-2009, 06:35 PM   #15
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My wife loves to cook and we are definitely not restaurant people. She also dislikes paper or plastic plates. So the stove and sink are absolutely necessary.

Only two of the burners in our old Scamp worked when we bought it. The top was rusty and the aluminum burners corroded. I cleaned it up and painted the top with high temp enamel, but that lasted only about a week of boondocking.

I found and built in a yacht quality rv sized stove. It is a joy to use, however a top quality counter top camping stove would work just as well.

For washing we use three equally sized stainless mixing bowls -- one for washing dishes, one for rinsing dishes and the third for hand washing and sponge bathing. These fit into and are used with a built-in sink made from the lid of a burned-out stainless steel fry pan.

Were I to do this again, I saw a nice oil change apparatus for about ten bucks at wally mart that would be a combination sink and drain tank and would just set on the counter top. Don't know why I didn't see this possibility before but it would be perfect for out traveling style. It would free up space in the cabinet. This is such a good idea, I may re-do ours.

So, you see, there are a multitude of options. One of them is perfect for your camping style!

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Old 06-02-2009, 07:18 PM   #16
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We too have a Boler and the sink does get used. Mainly for wash up and teeth cleaning before settling down for the night, but also when cooking indoors when travelling or in really bad weather. I just purchased a new hand pump to replace the exizting one that doesn't work too well and a 12v water pump so that we can have presurized water when we use the battery. Ours drains to a 5 gal sealed can outside. Some of the older Bolers drained directly onto the ground behind the wheel.

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Old 06-02-2009, 10:14 PM   #17
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We use the sink a lot--washing dishes & utensils, washing hands, brushing teeth, etc. I love the convenience. In fact, we replaced our original 4 1/2" deep sink with an 8 1/2" deep bar sink I found on Ebay to make it easier to wash larger items. We also installed a bar faucet. Works great for us!
The cooktop was another story. After a couple of camping trips, we decided not to use it any more because it heated up the camper so much. We removed the cooktop & bought a combination microwave/toaster oven for quick indoor cooking. We do most of our cooking outdoors though.
Everyone's needs are different, so modify your camper to suit your specific needs. Good luck!
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:01 PM   #18
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When I bought the gutted-out shell that was my Compact Jr. I felt I was moving up from tent camping, but not too far up. While I did replace the kitchen base cabinet, I did not install either a sink or stove. I DID install a 10 gallon fresh water tank under the bench and a manual pump faucet on the counter top, BUT I used a plastic dishpan on the counter and the pump faucet was tall enough to pump into the dishpan. Most of the time, the dishpan was stored in the cabinet under the counter. We used bottled water for drinking and making coffee, in the electric countertop drip-u-lator.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:07 AM   #19
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Hi Stacy! Here's our 2 cents worth ... we use both the sink and the cooktop in our Scamp13. We cook outside in good weather or for 'odiferous' stuff we don't want hanging around in the 'rat fur'. However, we have been grateful for the cooktop many times during storms ... or the time a bear came to breakfast last Sept! We moved inside in a hurry! A large cutting board over the sink provides added counter space when needed (and hides the dirty dishes ) .

We use our sink in most of the above-mentioned ways. I usually wash dishes in two dishpans (whether inside or out) because the sink is so small. Our Scamp is pretty basic. We have the fresh water tank but neither grey nor black holding tanks. The grey water from our sink collects in a small 'blue boy' type container which is easily emptied at the dump station as needed. We tried the 'bucket with a lid" thing, but some CGs frowned on that. As we have mentioned in other posts, we dry-camp, sometimes for long periods, and these arrangements work fine for us.

As others have said, making the most of your Egg-speriences is what's important - set it up to suit your camping style and hit the road. We wish you safe journeys and many happy memories. L 'n D
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:51 AM   #20
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Hi Stacy,
We have 2 rooms with 2 sinks in our 1978 Trillium 4500 Deluxe. We use both for rinsing food, washing our hands, washing our face, and brushing our teeth. When traveling we too use as a additional storage for the last minutes items before heading out. We cook outside too, but my wife enjoys the large 3 burner stove top. I may cook the bacon outside and she prepares the eggs, french toast on the inside. Plus we love the aroma of "Hickory-Smoked Maple Bacon passing through our site and others too.

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Old 06-03-2009, 07:25 AM   #21
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Thanks everyone! I think I'm going to hook up the sink to use when at sites that have water / electricity, though perhaps not carry a water tank. I can have hubby make a cover for the sink to turn into a counter top when not in use. As far as the stove, I'll see if he can get the one we have to work. If it does, then I guess we will keep it and make a covering for it to turn it into a countertop when not in use. If it doesn't work... then I think we might remove it.

Thank you everyone for your ideas / input!
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Old 06-03-2009, 08:20 AM   #22
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When I bought my 77' B-17 last thing I was thinking of was appliances, other than furnace.

Fridge? 30 yrs old, highly energy inefficient. Any modern cooler style fridge is lighter, will give more flexibility and draws less power. And I don't believe this 100lbs+ piece of junk will make a dent on resale value or make potential buyer overly exited. So IMHO - save the space in your attic if your fridge or stove is old.

75% of time I think ice box will be enough, beer can be cooled in a nearby stream.

Stove? With an oven? Jess I dont go to backcountry to make a lasagna! And my wife fully shares this approach. All I need is light one or two burner range, camping stove is a nice option but I think I'll go with the one hooked up to LPG (BTW any advice on source (preferrably Canadian) and model will be appreciated) and use space where fridge use to sit to build a boat-style kitchen, possibly convertable to clothes dryer - all vent plates are in place from the fridge era - and furnace compartment is just below.

Sink is mostly useful for washing hands, brushing teeth in the mornings and evenings, but with weight in mind I bought a trailer with no gray water tank and plan to use compostable dishes and biodegradable soaps on family trips, hunting camp use is even simpler - there are not so many dishes or cutlery in use anyway. Same with a toilet - while I have and plan to keep black tank at least for now, it will be used in a port-a-potty mode only with biodegradable bags.
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:24 PM   #23
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Hi Stacy,

our stove was gone but I wouldnt have wanted it anyways..I'm leaving our sink for now..We bought a 10X10 Popup Gazebo from walmart.. with a wind curtain .. this way we can cook outside anytime ..I took a 1/2" board and mounted a Microwave on it, then mounted the board with the microwave over the area left from the stove... Much safer with carpeted walls ... we have a 1 burner propane stove to cook on if we dont have power..
My water tank was broken and I have no plans to pump water from it so I removed the tank freeing up alot of storage area can always have one put back in.. I also caulk in the water fill hole ..again it can be removed We will just use the sink as storage for now.. it still has the top and its in good shape ...

I'm with the Majority ....Do what like ..Its Yours ... The first thing I did was take a chance and dye all the interior carpet from the original Canary Yellow to Dark brown..When we bought it ,It looked like someone shot tweety in there.. it can still be seen inside the cabinets and in the storge areas.. just as a reminder. plus it makes it easier to see in there .... But I'd much rather have Brown as Tweety Yellow Mine is a work in progress, We just got it memorial day weekend..We are going camping on the white River by Mtn Home this weekend .. its not finished yet I have all the wood doors to replace and I'm making the rear bed a full time bed ..I removed the top bunk over the front bed making the lower bunk MUCH more comfortable, we can just use throw pillows if we want to sit there
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:51 PM   #24
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Is there any really good reason for me to NOT remove the sink and fiberglass the hole? I'm thinking counter space would be better than a sink and I'd rather have the extra storage under the benches than tanks there.
We also have a boler American. For the sink we found a plastic cutting board with the wire handles that hold it at counter top level at a dollar store. All I had to do was round the corners a bit to make it fit. For the most part it holds stuff that sits on the counter while we are travelling.

You can get a cover for the stove that raises the counter in that area and levels it out.

For the tanks, we are installing tanks under the floor between the frame rails. That frees up the under bench storage. The boler American only came with a fresh water tank and the sink drained through a hose into a bucket outside. I want to install a grey water tank as well, as some places require one and one never knows when they will boon dock.

We don't use either all that often, but the stove is nice for coffee on those mornings when the weather is not all that great and you want to stay inside. On a chilly evening simply boiling the kettle long enough to make a hot beverage is enough to take the edge off a cool trailer.

I imagine once we get the water reconnected we will use it minimally like the others.

Over all even though they are not used much, they are nice to have and really do not take up all that much room. I chose to keep them.
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:14 PM   #25
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I saw pictures of your sink cover Roy, and I'm going to see if I can find one too!

Phillip, I'm so jealous that you are going camping this weekend. Hubby and I took off work today to work on the Boler.... oh boy... it's all over the garage now. The only thing in the boler at the moment is the closet! Even the kitchen is out!! It's been a long, productive day, and I'm going to sleep really good tonight, but we have a lot more work before we can camp again in it.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:39 PM   #26
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I saw pictures of your sink cover Roy, and I'm going to see if I can find one too!
Link to my post with pictures
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:04 AM   #27
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We use both our sink and stove, and I can see us using them for quite a while. We have 2 kids (1 and 3) so it's nice to keep them contained inside while making breakfast. We do easy lunches (sandwiches/chips/fruit) and grill for supper. I will cook veggies on the stove for supper. The sink is nice for doing dishes/washing hands. We have a sink cover/cutting board that came with the Scamp.
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:54 PM   #28
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I know others have had to use their trailers as a home-away-from home, due to inclement weather, fires or hurricanes
This would be the #1 reason I bought my first Burro for. I lived in a fire prone area and was constantly evacing.. I had a tiny tent trailer + animals + trying to do all the daily things one does when they have to make a traditional living = Misery. Camping is fun, but remember how tired you get after a trip.. it's a lot of work! Try cramming all that work in and still work a 10 hour day.. tain't easy. daily life was only briefly interrupted, but it didn't completely stop because of my geographic location.

I now not only use my bigger 17ft Burro as a temporary home and fun toy.. it [b]IS my home, so I am very grateful to have all the amenities of a sticks and bricks home in it. The double sink being one of the best comforts in it. I finish my day, I cook my meal and clean up as anyone else would at home, I kick back, grab a cold pop out of the fridge, turn on the tube or surf the net.. all without any extra work or walking to a different location, toting water etc.

I too, prefer to and mostly use real plates, cutlery etc.. so a sink just makes life a whole lot easier for me.


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