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Old 10-17-2016, 08:40 AM   #15
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I also bought some of the 3M 09030 Marine Ultra Performance Paste Wax but I have not used it yet. I have used the Meguiar's M6332 Flagship Premium Marine Wax which removes some light oxidation and staining. My plan is to use it again (and every six months) and then top coat with the 3M 09030. I think the exact products you need to use and the order of use is dependent on the amount of gel-coat restoration needed but all the listed products have good reputations.

But as for the decals, I really don't want to deal with cracked and faded decals in a few years so I wonder if you have considered removing the old ones and not putting news ones on? I also wonder if I should remove mine now, since the camper is a year old, to avoid the shadowing that will only get worse as time goes by (if the decals are removed later).
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:04 AM   #16
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Gordon, mine is definitely further along the oxidation path than yours, especially on top, after 8 years in high-altitude AZ sun. I thought about leaving off the decals, but decided to keep the large "Scamp" name at the back corners. I'm switching to gold, both to match my TV and because gold lasts longer in the sun. I'm leaving off the stripes and the decal on the gravel guard- it's going to collect stickers from our journeys.

I'm still vacillating between Meguiar's and the 3M paste wax (you're no help there ). I've always considered paste wax more durable but have no real evidence to support that. I appreciate your input.
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Old 10-17-2016, 06:25 PM   #17
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Cleaning Waxing - and Decals

One pretty good cleaner for gelcoat is Lime Away - mildly acid with good cleaning characteristics .. Scrub the thing 2x and rinse very very well .. Yes Bartenders Friend for " trouble spots ." - but only Trouble Spots.

Then consult Consumer Reports About Car Wax / Polish .... I have been using NU FINISH for yonks on both my fiberglass boats , Scamp and vehicles. Works for me at a reasonable price.

( I am frequently amused with the praises of Cabana Wax as an ingredient - Cabana Wax is derived from the Cabana Palm and has the interesting of melting at body temperature ... We have eaten lots of it as the coating of M & M's - which melt in your mouth instead of ...... ! Ya Pays your $$ and takes your pick ! )

Remove the Decals with a wheel - about 10 bucks on ebay - very easy and clean . If replacing the Decals - and having them made - consider using the 3M reflective decal material - it is of heaver weight - lasts a lot longer - and finding ones home in a campground is a reflective experience .
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Old 10-17-2016, 07:13 PM   #18
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I'm still vacillating between Meguiar's and the 3M paste wax (you're no help there ). I've always considered paste wax more durable but have no real evidence to support that. I appreciate your input.
As I understand it... the Meguiar's M6332 Flagship Premium Marine Wax has a mild abrasive so its good for light oxidation and staining. I do not think that the 3M 09030 Marine Ultra Performance Paste Wax has any abrasive quality to speak of and so it would only be appropriate for a new or newly restored gel-coat.

I guess if I were in your shoes, I would try the Meguiar's M6332 on a small section and see if I were happy with the results. If the gel-coat is too far gone to look good after using it, then a more aggressive polishing would be called for (such as the three step products). I am no expert on this at all however so seek out advice of others, maybe the local boat shops. The only thing I know for sure is that you want to use the least abrasive product that restores the gel-coat's appearance but does not remove any more than needed.

PS.. you were no help with the decals issue
I still don't know if I should leave them on or not. But I do know that I will not be adding any!
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Old 10-17-2016, 10:29 PM   #19
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3M has a Marine Restore product that some people have liked. Sounds as if you need that.

The wheel gets good reviews. Our graphics were not old and I was able to just put hot water on a cloth and remove them.



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Getting ready to do some exterior cosmetic maintenance on the Scamp.

Decals are cracked and fading, so I have new decals from Scamp- check. Gravel guard hardware is rusting and sagging, so I have a new set from Scamp- check. A few rivets need to be reset with new retaining washers- check. Have lots of snap caps, but no small ones- still looking there.

Putting together an Amazon order today.

Questions:

1. Is there anything I can do to the gravel guard hardware to prolong its life? Paint? Some kind of clear finish?

2. I'm ordering the 3M Stripe-Off Wheel. Do I go to work on the decals as-is, or should I do any chemical or mechanical prep before attacking with the wheel?

3. I am going to try a marine wax this time. I'd say my Scamp has moderate oxidation on top with light oxidation on the sides. I plan to use Bar Keepers Friend to do a thorough cleaning before applying the wax. I am looking for UV protection and durability more than a super-high gloss- not interested in the Zep or Poly-Glow approach. I've identified several products mentioned in old posts: Meguiar's M6332 Flagship Premium Marine Wax, 3M 09030 Marine Ultra Performance Paste Wax, or 3M 09062 Marine Liquid Wax. Any feedback on any of these products regarding ease of application or durability?

4. This will be my first riveting experience. I plan to start with the gravel guard hardware on the removable part as my training round. I have been reading all the recent threads related to riveting carefully. Any last-minute advice or cautions?

5. Seems like most people put a dab of sealant or butyl under the retaining ring when setting the rivet. What kind should I use?

6. I have read that the decals are best applied using soapy water so they can be adjusted. I'd love to have a bit more detail, as in step-by-step, on that.

Thanks, all!
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:22 AM   #20
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Hi there-
My first post!
I removed old Scamp decals with a small travel hair dryer and a plastic scraper. Really easy and no chemicals! I was prepared to spend all day on this, and it only took me about an hour to remove all the decals except on the front window cover (5th wheel). Give it a try before busting out the big guns!
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Old 10-29-2016, 11:01 AM   #21
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Life intervened, but I finally placed the Amazon order. Decided to give the Meguiar's 3-step kit a try. I'll probably use the first step only on the top. I also ordered the 3M Stripe-Off Wheel. Looks like we should have a few more weeks of mild weather to get this done.

Thanks for all the input!
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Old 10-30-2016, 06:09 PM   #22
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Get a Cyclo Pro buffer

I peeled mine with a hair dryer.


A good marine wax will do wonders.


Get a cyclo pro, and then get some rustoleum "peel coat" to protect the front


It is a rubberized surface that you can peel off.
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Old 10-30-2016, 07:01 PM   #23
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Quick question as I too am shining up my Scamp 16. Can I get on the roof to compound and polish it? Otherwise reaching over from a ladder is unnerving to say the least. I am 200 pounds and wondering if the roof will support my weight without having structural problems like cracking etc. Thanks, Ralph
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...Get a cyclo pro, and then get some rustoleum "peel coat" to protect the front. It is a rubberized surface that you can peel off.
What's a "cycle pro"? I'll check out the Rustoleum peel coat. I assume that's for the lower front shell as a chip guard?

Do you have any thoughts about how to keep the gravel guard hardware from rusting? I was really disappointed at how quickly the first set rusted in our fairly dry climate.

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...Can I get on the roof to compound and polish it? Otherwise reaching over from a ladder is unnerving to say the least. I am 200 pounds and wondering if the roof will support my weight without having structural problems like cracking etc. Thanks, Ralph
In a word, no. You could use padding to lean a ladder against the side of the trailer to get closer, though. That's one advantage of my 13'er. I can reach everything from a 4' stepladder beside the trailer.
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Pool noodles or pipe insulation can be used to cushion the ladder.
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Old 10-30-2016, 07:15 PM   #26
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Thanks Jon...I didn't think it would be wise to put all my eight to bear on the roof...I'll pad the ladder contact as you suggest...Ralph
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Glenn...thanks for the excellent illustration...Ralph
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