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Old 09-01-2015, 11:02 AM   #15
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In general, things with mechanical/moving parts are going to be heavier that things without moving parts on the same footprint. In addition, the top half of the Hi-Lo has to be oversized to fit over the bottom, and both halves likely need additional reinforcement to overcome the inherent floppiness of an open box. Added weight negates much of the aerodynamic advantage when towing. A friend had one for a number of years and liked it, but I thought it was kind of ugly.

The Apache hard-side pop-ups have a loyal cult following, but aren't the sides plastic rather than fiberglass? Therein lies the problem- don't think you can fabricate plastic in your garage. I'm guessing the one in Britain is also plastic.
If nothing else, the HI-LO type of campers define the term HEAVY. I think that the frame is built from structural steel to be able to raise the upper half. LOL

I just happen to have learned about an Apache that might be for sale in the Chelan area. If so, and it's a good deal, I will add it to my fleet. If it's not a good deal I will post the info LOL
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We still have our '73 Starcraft pop-up that sleeps 8, two wings & two tables. Bought it in '78, keep it inside, replaced the canvas several years ago. Sleeps 8 probably means 8 preteen kids
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...I just happen to have learned about an Apache that might be for sale in the Chelan area. If so, and it's a good deal, I will add it to my fleet. If it's not a good deal I will post the info LOL
Just curious, Bob… I did a bit of reading about these on another forum. It seemed like the biggest issue was repair or replacement of ABS side wall parts. Wouldn't they have a tendency to become brittle with UV exposure? What's your take on that?
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:30 PM   #18
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There is a good site for Apache owners. Best bet is to hope you find one that spent most of it's life closed up.


The 1988 Palomino I referbed for my son had perfect fabric, almost like new after almost 25 years, and I bought it from the family that bought it new.


All I can do is look and see.
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My friend has commented to me that there is someone locally who owns a warehouse of the Apaches and sells parts. There is a way to fix the ABS if it cracks and if all else fails she said the panels are easily replaced. That is in upstate NY. He happened to camp at the campgrounds we go to often. There is a meet coming up soon downstate that we might just attend with them because I love the vintage campers


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Thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind if this turns onto anything.
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In general, things with mechanical/moving parts are going to be heavier that things without moving parts on the same footprint. In addition, the top half of the Hi-Lo has to be oversized to fit over the bottom, and both halves likely need additional reinforcement to overcome the inherent floppiness of an open box. Added weight negates much of the aerodynamic advantage when towing. A friend had one for a number of years and liked it, but I thought it was kind of ugly.

The Apache hard-side pop-ups have a loyal cult following, but aren't the sides plastic rather than fiberglass? Therein lies the problem- don't think you can fabricate plastic in your garage. I'm guessing the one in Britain is also plastic.
I have an Apache and yes it is plastic and you can actually fix the plastic in your garage using MEK and ABS pellets which you brush on and it melts the plastic together. you can also make patches with it!Click image for larger version

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I have an Apache and yes it is plastic and you can actually fix the plastic in your garage using MEK and ABS pellets which you brush on and it melts the plastic together. you can also make patches with it!
Interesting, Don. Is that your trailer in the photo? It looks to be in pristine condition. Those Apaches were pretty common back when I was a kid traveling extensively with my family in our (conventional) tent trailer.

I'm guessing the process you describe is limited to repairs, though- cracks or smaller holes. Is it fairly easy, as suggested in an earlier post, to find replacement panels? There's one sitting neglected in a corner of an RV lot near me, but it looks like a project...

What is the approximate unloaded weight of yours?

Thanks for catching and updating this old thread!
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Do plastic and fiberglass work together? I don't think we can fix all-molded-towables with MEK and ABS pellets
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Do plastic and fiberglass work together? I don't think we can fix all-molded-towables with MEK and ABS pellets
Nope, you're right. Definitely two different materials. Fiberglass has a big advantage when it comes to making repairs.

This thread went a bit sideways when a couple of designs were mentioned that look like molded fiberglass panels but are actually plastic, like the vintage Apache folding trailers. Don was pointing out there there are ways to make smaller repairs to plastic, but for major repairs I'd guess you have to find a replacement panel cannibalized from another unit.

Back in the 70's I will admit I was envious of the Apache trailers. They were, and still are, pretty cool. But when it comes to simplicity, low maintenance, and repairability… I'll stick with my egg!
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Yes that is mine. I am rebuilding that Apache and an Amerigo. Big difference between fiberglass and plastic repair! Mine is one of the bigger models 24' long, 2200#. I set it aside for now while I work on my Amerigo. And large parts can be fixed on them using pieces of abs and melding them together. If you end up getting one, there is a great facebook group where we all help each other and share info & parts. www.facebook.com/groups/201182856613333/ and there is a company that purchased all the plans when Apache closed and they sell parts, they also tell you how to fix them. Apache Replacement Parts LLC They are fun but my Amerigo is getting done 1st!
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...If you end up getting one,...
I admit it's tempting, but I'd rather spend the time camping in my Scamp!
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Burro built pop-up campers. Not the best pic of an old ad. From an '80's Popular Science magazine
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