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Old 08-09-2009, 09:19 PM   #1
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I've been pondering a front dinette conversion on my Boler 13.

One question that keeps coming to mind is about the backrests. They always look to me like they'd be so far back that they really wouldn't be comfortable to lean back on in the usual way (in other words, you could lean back onto the cushions but it would be a bit exaggerated and maybe not all that comfortable

In my late-night design pondering sessions I've thought about shortening up the two seat bases by having a small compartment/closet by the door (8" or so deep) to bring the new "back" closer to the table; and a narrow shelf/counter on the other side (next to the kitchen) for the same purpose.

So I guess what I'm asking is how comfortable are those dinette seats with the back cushions all the way out to the camper sides? Are the backs really "lean-on-able" without leaning back a crazy amount? Maybe it's just an optical illusion on my part that they look too wide?

To illustrate I'll post a couple of photos of dinettes I've saved that show the dinette seats running full width. One is Pat C's that she's just finished (Boler 13) and the other is from Gina's former Burro 13.


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Thanks for any input as I ponder the conversion

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Old 08-09-2009, 10:02 PM   #2
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Yeah, that's why we didn't do it in the Scamp..... Too much back room and not enuff room for a recliner... Larry
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:26 AM   #3
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What about adding a set of bucket style seats on top of the benches it swivel bases, and they would recline some as well. My father camps in a Ford E-350 cargo van that he converted into a camper with sink, fridge, galley style beds even a toilet.....anyway he put these seats in so the drivers and passenger seats can turn around after he parks and be used to sit and watch tv.
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Old 08-10-2009, 01:02 AM   #4
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That's a good idea, Scott, and I've saved photos from several people who have done this.

On the other hand, I'd like to maximize storage and "ledge" space, so if the seats seem deep to folks who have used them (I haven't done), I was thinking of incorporating a couple of ledge/closets against the side walls to bring them in a bit.

But, I have also thought about mounting a big, comfy office/swivel chair

Actually, I had thought about making the whole front couch section into a big desk/project table, and simply using a small folding chair to sit at it facing forward (and tucking the chair into the "keyhole" when not using it. But I do kind of like the idea of a dinette.

An option that's halfway between would be having (or using) only the dinette seat by the door, and then having a full-depth counter section on the kitchen side. A second person could pull up a folding chair.

I hope lots of folks will chip in ideas and opinions

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Old 08-10-2009, 01:17 AM   #5
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Wow. I haven't thought about that picture in a long time.. LOL!

I have seen lots of ways folks have done it in person. None of them really address the problem AND look good.

I found the way I did it to have the same result you are concerned about. I found a couple of those thick "Prop me up" bed cushions with arms on them and used those in addition to the back rests you see.

Since most of the time when sitting at a table I am eating, or on the comp, I found my leaning back periods were few, so it wasn't as big a concern as I thought it would be.
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:10 AM   #6
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My solution has been more of a temporary one, but I just got two bed pillows at Walmart and for the time being they're working out fine. They're enough support when I'm sitting there and the cats like to sit on the tops of them. Like Gina said, one of the things that you should consider is how much lounging time will you be spending on those seats. When I'm sitting on my dinette, I'm there to eat or write, so I'm generally sitting up straighter. If I want to lounge, I'm in my chair outside or on the bed.

I just finished my couch to dinette conversion this summer--and I absolutely love it. It makes such a difference in how I travel.

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Old 08-10-2009, 07:26 AM   #7
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One question that keeps coming to mind is about the backrests. They always look to me like they'd be so far back that they really wouldn't be comfortable to lean back on in the usual way (in other words, you could lean back onto the cushions but it would be a bit exaggerated and maybe not all that comfortable
I've thought that myself. I wondered if you could mount a swivel boat seat like this: swivel boat seat
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Hi Cam,

I did just read a conversion page on FGRV wherein people used those basic swivel boat seats. I think I dredged it up by searching "front dinette" in the section that shows off mods people have done (forget the name just now).

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Old 08-10-2009, 11:12 AM   #9
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Raya Well guess I'll chime in. I have pondered the same issues. The boat seats look like they have promise. From the photos it looks like they fold flat which would give one access to any storage areas you could build behind them. Lee
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That's sweet Per!
I've seen several where the right seat is on a swivel as well.

If you look on the Casita forums you will find a bunch of swivel seat mods that folks have done to the Spirit Deluxe side dinette which is basically the same setup as this but on the side.
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Since most of the time when sitting at a table I am eating, or on the comp, I found my leaning back periods were few, so it wasn't as big a concern as I thought it would be.
What Gina said.

I've pondered it too Raya. I tried to come up with an idea that would shorten the seating depth and still be able to make it into a bed.....without success.
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I'm loving all the thoughtful replies. Thanks (and keep them coming, please )

Per, I had those seats saved in my idea files. What sort of chairs were they "in real life"?

Lizbeth: Ah, that does add to the challenge. I don't need the ability to make the forward area into a bunk (although of course I'd save all the original parts so as to be able to change over if desirable), so my task is easier.

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Raya,

I hope to do The Dinette Conversion very soon myself.

I don't have the cubby for the loo in my boler so the whole thing is going to be raised like the bed/dinette end.

I plan on making the new table the same width as the existing one and the benches the same depth. That way I don't forsee a problem with the depth of the seats.

My question is, should I frame it out or just use 1/2" ply? Hmmmmmn ...
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