definately food for thought.i dont own a pioneer and wont they are just to high doller.we will build one.i would like you advice on this.please pm or e mail me.i think the trailer tounge should rest on a ball in the middle of the axle??
not a pin hitch???
Sorry Jim, I misunderstood, I thought you said earlier that you had a pioneer cart and were going to use that. Either way, if you have one that you will use or if you build one, I think it will be a rough riding mistake. If you have to start from scratch because you have nothing, then in a way you are ahead of the game because you can just build it the way you want to from the start. I think you will want something with 4 wheels, a 2 wheeled cart would be too jerky for my taste and since you have to build whatever you are going to use, just work on a 4 wheeled design.
Since you are starting with a clean slate, ignore my thought of a center articulated fore cart with trailing platform, just go to a small simple wagon. Something more along the line of the small Kory wagons might be a way to go. http://www.koryfarm.com/Products_3000.htm
I would go a little wider then they did, say around 5 feet instead of the 4 that the Korys are. The length they have is probably about right as you will likely want it on the short side, just big enough to haul your few bales of hay and grain. Im sure a wagon that size is more in line weight
wise than a full size hay wagon, they only weigh about 200 pounds but about double that with a wood platform.
You should think about adding brakes
to whatever you build. My pioneer has some really simple brakes
on it, just a band around a drum like on the old Farmall M and other tractors used. If whatever camper you buy has brakes
, all the better. You can hook up a battery
to power the brakes on the camper.
On a 4 wheel cart, weather you put the ball hitch on top of the axle
or behind it wont matter at all since there is pretty low tongue weight
on the fiberglass trailers. Even a regular trailer wouldnt have too heavy of a tongue. On a 2 wheel cart, it might be better to put the ball above the axle
so it dont lift too hard on the horses but you will still have the jerking from the horses pulling. As they pull on the cart, since its 2 wheels, it causes a twisting action around the axle which is where the jerking would be felt. Every time the tree goes up or down, even just the cadence and normal bounce of the horses will be transfered through the ball to the trailer. On a 4 wheeled cart you avoid that jerking but will still feel horses when they pull forward (and the back push when going down hill). I guess if you want to be fancy, you could minimize that by building a spring loaded hitch like the DMI farm hitches they put on trucks.