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04-09-2014, 07:28 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1990 Bigfoot 5th Wheel
Posts: 604
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How level is level?
I've heard that it can be hard on the fridge if it is used when the trailer is not level. So what is level, or, I guess, what is not level? I have a level app, and raising the trailer one side an inch or two (athwartship) does not seem to make a lot of difference. As long as I'm not low on the head side (sleeping) it does not seem to be a big problem. (fore and aft I can set with my legs) Is leveling the trailer to the inch a little OCD, or is it something we all should be doing if we want our fridges to survive? Is the non-level fridge killing myth or fact?
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04-09-2014, 07:46 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Oliver
Posts: 713
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I can generally feel if the Oliver is not level. I do have levelers mounted inside the coach. I can tweak the outside jacks from the inside if needed. As far as the fridge goes, the more level it is, the better. Does it have to be perfect? No, but if you can tell the trailer is not level by the way it feels when you're inside, then it is too much out of level for the refrigerator to work properly.
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2008 Outlaw Oliver Legacy Elite & 2014 Outlaw Oliver Legacy Elite II
2022 Silverado High Country 3500HD Diesel 4x4
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04-09-2014, 07:51 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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I would not rely on the app and just carry a regular small level and do side to side and front to rear. As Steve says, if you are comfortable inside then it is pretty much level.
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Never in doubt, often wrong
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04-09-2014, 08:34 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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DOMETIC Refrigerator Leveling
If you have a DOMETIC refrigerator, the following is the company line on leveling.
FIRST: Determine if you have an Early or a Late design Refrigerator
Early Design: Has a Square edge cover around the boiler, that's the big vertical thing on the back of the refrigerator.
Late Design: Has a Round boiler cover
SECOND: Level as follows:
EARLY Design refrigerators are more sensitive to being level when operating and should be level within 1/2 a bubble width as measures on a Bulls Eye level placed on the freezer floor section. (Dometic used to supply a bulls-eye level with these refrigerators, they are available at any RV store and even Wal-Mart.
LATE Design refrigerators are less sensitive to being operated out of level and the rule basically sez to "Level the trailer until comfortable for it's occupants" (Dometic no longer provides levels with new refrigerators.
I "Super Level" my trailers refrigerator one time with a bulls eye level, then I attach outside levels, center front and directly over the axle center, indicating "0" tilt and use those for all future leveling. The 40+ y.o. Dometic in my Hunter still works great on both 120 VAC as well as LP.
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04-09-2014, 09:17 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Helite
Posts: 164
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On the level is when the blood does not rush to your head.
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04-09-2014, 09:51 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Alice
Trailer: 2018 Casita SD - Kondo A-Go-Go
Utah
Posts: 502
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I like it with the passenger side of Scamp just a hair lower. That way the bathroom door will stay open when I am taking a shower.
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KONDO A-GO-GO - I GO WHERE I'M TOWED
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04-09-2014, 12:11 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Helite
Posts: 164
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Wallo: Also, the air conditioner water runoff, runs off the back side of the camper.
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04-09-2014, 01:46 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Ted
Trailer: (Dark side)Crossroads Now
Glade Valley, North Carolina
Posts: 990
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I like the round bubble levels.
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04-09-2014, 01:58 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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Yep, that's also called a "BullsEye" level.
BTW: I tried the square bubble type one time, didn't like them at all. LOL
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04-09-2014, 02:14 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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My old 3 way fridge in my Scamp seems to run more effectively when its level. It doesnt have a built in level so I just leave a Bulls Eye type level pictured above on the bottom of the fridge to confirm its level. If I put the level on the counter or the floor I often get a different reading though, which suggests the fridge although it looks to be to the eye it isn't actually level with either the counter or the floor.
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04-09-2014, 03:35 PM
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Moderator
Name: RogerDat
Trailer: 2010 Scamp 16
Michigan
Posts: 3,744
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+1 on I level fridge. And fridge does not match the counter or other stuff exactly. But if the dishes don't slide off counter then it is level enough for my needs.
May stick a bulls eye in the fridge, I have a short 6" level I use now. Smaller is better (says the owner of a 13 ft.) :-)
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04-09-2014, 04:34 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Oliver
Posts: 713
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Miller
......the square bubble.......
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Now Bob, you know there ain't no such thing as a "square bubble"
But I did see a square punkin' once....
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Steve and Tali - Dogs: Rocky and our beloved Reacher, Storm, Maggie and Lucy (waiting at the Rainbow Bridge)
2008 Outlaw Oliver Legacy Elite & 2014 Outlaw Oliver Legacy Elite II
2022 Silverado High Country 3500HD Diesel 4x4
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04-09-2014, 04:59 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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Sure there are... take a look at 2:25 into this video and he will show you how to make your own.....
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04-09-2014, 06:09 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Ted
Trailer: (Dark side)Crossroads Now
Glade Valley, North Carolina
Posts: 990
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Miller
Yep, that's also called a "BullsEye" level.
BTW: I tried the square bubble type one time, didn't like them at all. LOL
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Yea "BullsEye". I couldn't for the life of me think of that name. LOL
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04-09-2014, 06:18 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Frank
Trailer: Casita
California
Posts: 260
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Square Bubble movie......Someone definitely has tooooooo much spare time !!!!
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04-09-2014, 07:09 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,710
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I'm with Carol. I place a bullseye level on the floor of the refrigerator and level to that. Easy peasy with a BAL leveler! When the refrigerator is happy, I'm happy.
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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04-09-2014, 08:50 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Toyota Sunrader and 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 975
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If your not rolling out of bed you're close enough.
John
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04-10-2014, 05:22 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita Spirit Deluxe 2003 16 ft
Posts: 1,899
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Generally speaking, front to back level is more critical than side to side. Has to do with the slope of the coils that zig zag back and forth when you look at the back of the refrig.
Be sceptical of the factory installed bubbles as I believe they're installed with the frame level but the refrigs aren't always level with repect to the frame. A one-time check of a bubble level on the refrig floor vs. the trailer mounted levels can be helpful. And those bubble levels are pretty cheap. In fact, you don't need any kind of expensive level for trailer levelling purposes.
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04-10-2014, 05:43 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1990 Bigfoot 5th Wheel
Posts: 604
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Thanks, Steve, that's what I was looking for.
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04-10-2014, 06:35 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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According to Dometic Tech Support, in EARLY design Dometic units (the ones with the square edge boiler cover, BOTH directions are equally important when it come to leveling.
I was told, again by Dometic, that it has to do with residues in the cooling circuit being kept in suspension or they can build up at a "Drain" in the system and eventually obstruct flow, stopping the circuit.
Again, that was their laymen's explanation and it works for moi.
Best bet, as with most appliances, is to start by reading the manual. If you don't have one, about 99% of them can be found on-line for free.
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