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Old 07-24-2010, 08:13 AM   #15
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Hi Roy!
I've wondered if there are difference between Boler American and Boler "Canadian" built campers! Obviously most posters have Canadian built Bolers and I've always assumed that the advice is interchangeable... tho I've never seen enough history on those built in the US to know if that's totally correct!
Hi Luke. I do know of one difference that I have found while restoring my American Boler. I took my shell off the frame to have my frame reinforced in some areas & the back rebuilt. I knew the axle seemed very weak & my welder confirmed that & said that it would be the easiest to replace the axle while it was off the shell. I didn't know enough about the specs on an axle to order a new one myself so I decided to order a new one from Paul Newmeister because I knew that his were built to the Boler specs. I, like you assumed there wouldn't be a difference between Canadian made & Americam made Bolers. What I found was that the American Boler axle seems to be a bit shorter & it has a different offset on the frame. I found out the hard way......my welder mounted the new axle just as the mounting brackets were on it. We had measured them so I knew that the new axle was going to be very close to the shell when I put it back together. What I was surprised to see was that the the passenger side wheel actually sits just outside the shell. The drivers side sits just inside the wheel well so I didn't even have enough room to remount the axle & shift it over. At that point I decided my only option was to cut the wheel well openings larger to fit the wheels. It really doesn't look too bad. I will post pictures later to show you the difference. I don't have them on this computer. I also plan to get a couple of wheel flares for it to help hide it.



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Old 07-24-2010, 03:12 PM   #16
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Hey, that's crucial information!! Thanks for posting that.

I'm going to need a new axle as soon as I can get to it and was considering Newmeister as a resource, if not the purchase because he's in Canada and I'm not, but I thought I might contact him for the specs!

I guess that's an example to never assume anything; to take your own measurements, measure twice, etc, etc, etc.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:13 PM   #17
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Hey, that's crucial information!! Thanks for posting that.

I'm going to need a new axle as soon as I can get to it and was considering Newmeister as a resource, if not the purchase because he's in Canada and I'm not, but I thought I might contact him for the specs!

I guess that's an example to never assume anything; to take your own measurements, measure twice, etc, etc, etc.
Very true Clive. I learned the hard way. Paul was great to work with & had no idea that there was a difference between the Canadian axle & the American axle. I also never gave it a thought because I just figured that when they started making them in the US that they used all of the same pattern. I did contact Paul after I found out that they were different so that he will know if anyone else with an American Boler needs an axle that his may not fit correctly. It is tough to get true measurements off the original American axles though because they are welded on & not bolted on.

My best advice to anyone is to take as many measurements as you can of the original & compare them with what you are going to purchase. Shipping the axle from Canada to the US is also a little expensive so you may find it cheaper to try & locate a Dexter axle dealer near you & give them all of your specs & get a quote from them.

Again I will say though that Paul was very good to deal with.

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Old 07-24-2010, 07:21 PM   #18
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Hi Clive
Here's some dimension on my new axle to correct the axle problem on my American Boler
It's wider and now both tire are center in wheel wells Jean-L
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:14 PM   #19
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Hi Clive
Here's some dimension on my new axle to correct the axle problem on my American Boler
It's wider and now both tire are center in wheel wells Jean-L
Thanks Jean for the schematic. I have saved it for future reference.

Of course, in any case, you know I am going to have to get in there and get my Boler's measurements after Libby's experience! (When I am able to get to that job).

But what axle did you use? Dexter? Is that a direct replacement or did you go trailing arm?

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Old 07-24-2010, 09:22 PM   #20
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Hi Clive
Here's some dimension on my new axle to correct the axle problem on my American Boler
It's wider and now both tire are center in wheel wells Jean-L
GREAT schematic. Folks are always wondering what needs to be measured and although the measurements for their particular trailer may/will be different, this visual is going to be very helpful
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:26 AM   #21
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Hi Clive
I use a Flexride axle, and it fit like a glove. Its 2" longer that the original axle on American Boler .
The trick is to offset the mounting bracket on the axle .And now, I have brakes on it .It's great.
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Old 07-25-2010, 08:08 AM   #22
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Hi Clive
Here's some dimension on my new axle to correct the axle problem on my American Boler
It's wider and now both tire are center in wheel wells Jean-L
Yes, thanks for posting the schematic Jean. I knew someone on the forum had one but I couldn't remember who. Everyone on the forum has been great helping me as I go along on my restoration. I only hope I am able to help others also as I go along.

Hope you had a good time at Wagons Ho!

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Old 07-25-2010, 02:10 PM   #23
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Hey, that's crucial information!! Thanks for posting that.

I'm going to need a new axle as soon as I can get to it and was considering Newmeister as a resource, if not the purchase because he's in Canada and I'm not, but I thought I might contact him for the specs!

I guess that's an example to never assume anything; to take your own measurements, measure twice, etc, etc, etc.
I stated earlier that I would post pictures of the new axle on my Boler. I have cut the wheel well openings larger to fit the tire as it is now.
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Old 07-27-2010, 05:26 AM   #24
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Thanks Jean for the schematic. I have saved it for future reference.

Of course, in any case, you know I am going to have to get in there and get my Boler's measurements after Libby's experience! (When I am able to get to that job).

But what axle did you use? Dexter? Is that a direct replacement or did you go trailing arm?
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I'm sorry that I didn't answer all your questions.
I's a flexride axle and I went with a trailing arm and brakes JEAN-L
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:13 PM   #25
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Found '72 sn# 5042

[QUOTE=Roy in TO;214627]I'm not sure Brian, hopefully Jean L will pipe in. Off the top of my head (with some searching):

Clive Alive # 3104
Roy in TO # 5212
Jean L
Jean L's daughter
Lance MacArthur (the blue boler)
Marty Smiltneek
John & Jaci D.
ntlobo (from bolerama post 8427.1) had one for sale listed in May 2010 # 5137
Libby F.
Stacy Croster
Jerry8887 (bolerama) Norfolk, VA
Chromedome37 (bolerama)
# 5521 or 5821 was on ebay in June 2008 (the second digit might not have been readable, production #'s might indicate this should have been 5221 or 5321.)
Brian Scott # 5222
Tina Wolk (bolerama) sold hers 2006 # 5064
BillNKC
Dave M

Yesterday I found 1972 Boler American s/n #5042 here in Minnesots, still road worthy. You can add it to the list.

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Old 08-03-2010, 06:14 PM   #26
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we have one we are restoring right now

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Old 08-03-2010, 06:31 PM   #27
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we have one we are restoring right now

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Looks good Phil. What is the s/n of yours?

I used to live in Ingleside and have been to Odem many times.
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:56 PM   #28
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Looks good Phil. What is the s/n of yours?

I used to live in Ingleside and have been to Odem many times.
ill get a pic or write it down this evening
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