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Old 08-20-2019, 04:12 PM   #1
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Interior lighting questions

Two questions: I need to replace the light fixture over the main table in my 13 ft Scamp. Currently, it has an incandescent bulb. Most new fixtures are for LED, which -- in my experience -- casts a nasty light for sitting around and playing cards in the evening. (Wife is even more offended!) Are there LED lights that are FAR more friendly? 2nd question: Years ago, I installed new reading lights with halogen bulbs. Excellent to read by, but are these a huge draw on my battery, compared to the incandescents that Scamp originally installed? Many thanks.

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Old 08-20-2019, 04:23 PM   #2
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I use all LEDs including the reading lights. Dropped my power consumption by about 90% compared to incandescents. LEDs come in many light ranges. Just get the ones you like. I replaced the entire fixtures in my 1977 Trillium, as the original fixtures and lenses were pretty beat and brittle.

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Old 08-20-2019, 04:34 PM   #3
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Warm white is the color LED you want that matches close to incandescent. see here
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:58 PM   #4
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Yes, get the warmest light possible. The kelvin scale is good to be familiar with. I spent probably $60 on LED bulbs for a house I was in before getting light I could tolerate. Just for my bedroom...

I tried “natural” light for spots in my trailer I thought I’d need brighter light. No way. For me, warm white is all I can handle. It’s becoming a problem for me when people buy new houses or remodel and put in LED light. I do as much as I can in the dark...
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:26 PM   #5
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LEDs are sold in different "colors" from a yellow light to a white "daylight".
Look at the numbers... Usually from maybe 2800 to maybe 5000.
I am writing this without an effort to be accurate, its just from memory.
I my trailer when I switched to LEDs I used a pure white light in the bathroom for a nice clean look.
Then I used a more yellow light in the living area which matched the original color of the incandescent bulbs which I replaced.
This worked great for us and if there is a difference it is negligible.
Glad to be rid of the wasted power and the heat, which spoiled the bread in the cabinet above my wife's favorite reading spot.

I just read the other comments and as you can see we all had about the same results!
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Old 08-21-2019, 05:54 AM   #6
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My wife and I are quite particular about this very thing. As Floyd mentioned, LEDs have a color rating of sorts, measured in Kelvin, I believe. We’ve found that anything higher than 2700k or so is far too “clinical” feeling—a very blue, cold, artificial hue, if you will. Anything below 2700k tends to be warmer and closer to the traditional incandescent bulbs, which we find is more comfortable and inviting. If you’re going the store route, check the boxes for this rating. It used to be that the stores stocked the colder hues a lot more than the warmer ones, but as LEDs are becoming more commonplace, I’m starting to see the stores offer up more options. We switched all of the interior and exterior lights (exception to the side markers) in our Trillium to LEDs and are happy with them.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:30 AM   #7
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One thing no one has mentioned is the Solar inflatable LED Lights. We have 4 of them. and use them all the time.
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Old 08-24-2019, 05:01 PM   #8
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Thin-Lite LEDs

Thanks for all the input. I ended up installing a LED light from Thin-Lite that fit (kind of) the space Scamp originally allocated for a no-longer-available incandescent feature. That was over the main table. The quality of the light seems quite acceptable (unlike many of the earlier LEDs we have experienced in our home). I'm even thinking of replacing the incandescent light over the sink just to save unnecessary draw on the battery when my wife is cooking up all those delicious dinners after the sun has gone down! I wish I knew numbers info for this LED light that I could share, but I've got nothing but the eyeball test, and it appears to pass muster!
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Old 08-27-2019, 03:29 PM   #9
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I really like cutting consumption of electrical
So LEDs were a great idea, however our Bigfoot came with some of the earlier versions of LED conversion bulbs, with a bright bluewhite light.

Not the warm glow I like to have when relaxing around the table at night.

So I went to a well known place that sells LED retrofit lighting, just so I could see the color temp, and figure out what I liked best.

We ended up with a handfull of different options,

Bright daylight in the bathroom and in the kitchen,

Warm light over the table and in the area between the cabin and overhead (we have a truck camper)

By switching out all of our lights to LED and changing the range hood fan to a brushless motor, I've reduced my power consumption to very low levels.

We did find that a $10 amazon dual light dual switch LED fixture, had terrible optics, and made our eyes quiver, as it really showed the yellow and blue lights, so I installed a bit of tracing paper (vellum really) between the bulb and the outside lens, that diffused the light enough that it cast a much better glow.

We even changed the bulb in our fridge and in the range hood, both to LED lights, the one in the fridge especially would heat up enough that it's slightly warped the plastic around the lens and the holder.

The range hood light switch was one of the best ones, it was a much larger panel and now gives a much more even light across the whole stove.
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Old 08-31-2019, 05:22 PM   #10
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I did decide to change to LEDs over the sink too. I thought I’d look on the packaging to see what the “numbers” were. Oddly, nothing there about light quality other than “cool white”. It looks passable right now — hope it doesn’t prove nasty turning the next couple of months on the road! If so, we’ll be dining by candle light, as we did in the old days.... Seems odd that you folks have so much useful information about LED light quality, and the manufacturers don’t tell you much of anything.
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Old 08-31-2019, 05:58 PM   #11
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Are you buying on eBay?
Yes you will pay more but they provide a great deal of technical information and support. And they frequently have 10% off sales.
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Old 08-31-2019, 08:21 PM   #12
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You want "warm white" or 2700 - 3000 K.
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Old 08-31-2019, 09:21 PM   #13
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They LED lighting I see being sold at the local marine stores normally includes the description of cool white or warm white on the package. Sometimes they even give the Kelvin rating numbers.

I myself prefer the Kelvin numbers to be right about 5000 which is fairly close to natural daylight. It is cheery lighting, they use it in those SAD lights to combat seasonal effect depression that happens in the winter time.

If someone told me want to get warm white I would tell them no I really don't want warm white lights, because they mess up the color of the art work I am trying to look at or create and they contribute to eye strain when I am working.
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Old 09-04-2019, 12:59 PM   #14
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My preference are LED Bulbs that fall in the 3000 - 3500 Kelvin range.

To me they provide the best light for reading / playing cards in a smallish enclosed space (Trailer).

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