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Old 07-12-2011, 09:06 AM   #15
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A couple more...

1b. How do you clean the top of the camper? Is it strong enough to sit up there on the roof?

11. Where do you get 'butyl tape'?
1B. Cleaned mine with a mixture of 1/3 bleach and 2/3 water because after washing it and scrubbing on it for a couple of days you could still see dark spots all over the top ..I figured out later it had to be some type mold staining the inside of the gel-coat because even sanding would not get rid of it.... but the bleach mixture sure did and if I had done that first it would have saved a heap of elbow grease and back pain...

11. I've bought most of mine from E-bay because every R.V. store I've been to wants to ROB you blind...I bought a box of it once...I think there were over 15 rolls in it for $15.00 the kicked was it cost $18.00 to ship it. Still a lot cheaper than the $19.00 per roll they wanted at the RV shop...
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Old 07-12-2011, 09:10 AM   #16
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Any brandnames for the 'boat fiberglass oxidation remover'? Brand of wax?
i used a brand called starbrite, got it in boating section of Fleet Supply.
Wax was Nufinish.
I originally washed outside with tilex, wet sanded with 2000 grit sand paper then did the oxidation removing and waxing, if I did it over again would have skipped the sanding. my trailer requires a ladder and long arms to do roof, not much supporting Scamp roofs I actually used a swiffer mop to scrub and apply wax to roof
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Old 07-12-2011, 09:11 AM   #17
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A couple more...

1b. How do you clean the top of the camper? Is it strong enough to sit up there on the roof?

11. Where do you get 'butyl tape'?
Hey Melanie,
I seriously don't recommend sitting on the roof of your Trillium....It's not designed to hold much weight. You can clean the roof area standing on a ladder and using a boat brush on a pole.
As for the butyl tape, I got mine from an RV place but I know I've seen it at Lordco and Canadian Tire...Baring those places you could always try a glass place.
Good luck with your sprucing up!
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Old 07-12-2011, 09:23 AM   #18
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Any brandnames for the 'boat fiberglass oxidation remover'? Brand of wax?

You can use the oxidation cleanser and wax if you want to after all it's yours..But you will work you butt off for very little results, believe me "I'VE BEEN THERE DONE THAT" several times and it not worth the effort..Try the REDMAX way believe me you will be glad you did, BarKeepers Freind will clean it better than just about anything out there and 2 cans will cost you every bit as much as 3 bucks total and you will probably have some left over..And a gallon of RedMax cost around 15 bucks and thats enough to do 5 or 6 campers...as i said you choice....
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Old 07-12-2011, 09:31 AM   #19
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Hey Melanie,
I seriously don't recommend sitting on the roof of your Trillium....It's not designed to hold much weight. You can clean the roof area standing on a ladder and using a boat brush on a pole.
As for the butyl tape, I got mine from an RV place but I know I've seen it at Lordco and Canadian Tire...Baring those places you could always try a glass place.
Good luck with your sprucing up!
Cheers! Emily
I agree with Emily about the roof, it's not strong enough to put much of your weight on. One thing that has been suggested is supporting the roof with 2x4s on the inside as jacks, cut and fasten a short piece to make a "tee" on the top part to distribute the roof load better on the jack and then cut the long part to fit just snug standing up from the trailer floor to the roof.
That'll keep the roof from buckling if you are leaning on it as you work off of a ladder, and if you plan to keep the trailer outside in the winter you can use them to help the roof from sagging if you get a serious dump of snow.

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Old 07-13-2011, 09:08 AM   #21
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I'm hoping to get a few tips on how to clean up our 'new' trillium.

I don't want to do anything too serious until the winter...I really just want it to be clean and fresh...minor cosmetic things for now. Here are the 'top 10'...things I'd like to tackle first:

1. Exterior cleaning... Best cleaning product? Specific type of Spray Nine? What not to use? Quick restoration of gelcoat?


2. Interior cleaning...Best cleaning product on Ensolite (unpainted)?


3. Flooring/Glue removal...I want to remove old vinyl flooring. How can I remove the glue without sanding? Any chemical goop remover safe for fiberglass?


4. Seams...I've read about soaking the trim in hot water, but if this doesn't work, is there trim I can buy to replace it? I don't plan to paint the ensolite either.


5. Door handle...I'd like to replace the door handle...Does anyone know if and where I can get one?


6. Fiberglass repair...If I replace the door handle (with a working lock), I will need to repair small holes when I take the padlock off. Any fiberglass repair advice for screw holes?

7. Belly band...The black plastic strip around belly band is broken and portions of are missing. Anyone know if this can be replaced?


8. Frame...can I paint it without taking the fiberglass shell off the frame? What's the best paint for the frame?


9. Hubcaps...they are chrome but rusted. How can I make them look better?


10. Upholstery...I'd like to cover the cushions with something temporarily until I find the 'right' fabric (1970s retro pink and orange, maybe?). Someone mentioned using table clothes...bedsheets...has anyone done a slip cover without zippers? I can sew a bit. Love to see pics...


Your tips and ideas are very much appreciated...Thank you. Melanie
Melanie,

I covered all the cushions and did not use zippers. I did use welting on some of the cushions. Under Modifications and Alterations, checkout 1990 Casita re-do, February 13-16, 2011.
Making "pillow cases" for the cushions works, if you make them slightly narrower than the dimensions of the cushions. Wrapping the foam in plastic bags makes them easier to insert. I used strong thread (kite string) and a blind stitch to sew up the opening. I bought the fabric, about 3 dollars a yard,at a Wal-Mart. It's outdoor fabric for covering cushions on furniture.

For a less permanent fix, I'd wrap the cushions in fabric, like you'd wrap a pkg.. You might consider attaching some ties on the back side to adjust the fit...maybe using D-Rings.

Selecting fabric....avoid using a solid color. Pick out a pattern, or maybe one with a texture. Note that I used a solid color for welting. It just makes the job easier. Good Luck, Mona
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I know that other's have suggested not not go up on the roof, but I've been up on mine without issues several times and so has my husband. I am about 140lbs and he's around 160 lbs. Obviously if you you don't need to go up there, that's the best way, but if know that other's have done it without issue. The sides are more solid than the middle because the sides have the cupboards giving them extra strength. Actually, by getting up on the roof I found very tiny holes that I didn't know were up there.


Our camper is now stripped of ensolite, but in the past I used soap and water to clean it. One time we had a lot of mold growth when my brother stayed in the trailer in the fall and condensation caused it to grow. I cleaned that with mild bleach solution and it brightened it up without issue.


I used 2 different types of "Goo" products on the floor tiles and both worked great. I believe they have a lemon oil in them. They actually made the fiberglass gelcoat shine and removed the sticky residue. On a side note, it also works somewhat on the contact glue that is used to glue ensolite to the fiberglass. It's not great, but it does help a little.


We're in the middle of doing a whole bunch of fiberglass repair. I took off the belly band and fiberglassed the whole thing. We also took out all the windows and the awning attachments. If you have a large area to repair the long strand repair is good, but for what you need, I would suggest the short strand fiberglass. We used bondo and it's very simple to use, sands down nicely, but goes set up very quickly so you have to move fast.

SOS will clean up the hubcaps but it won't completely get rid of the rust. Once metal has been oxidized you will have to pain over it to stop the rust coming through. I used sos on all the aluminum windows and it looked almost new. We also bought a special metal cleaner, but I haven't tried it yet.

For a temporary slip cover, why not make pillow case style with a flap and button attachment. That way it's snug, but easily removable. I know one of the local fabric stores has outdoor fabrics on buy one meter get two free on right now. I was able to buy a bunch of outdoor fabrics and a little vinyl for $5 a bolt at Habitat for Humanity a few years back, so keep your eye out or even as them to call if something should come in.

We bought our "butyl" tape at a local rv store. It's really putty with some butyl in it. I think it was $11 per roll and did does about one large (front or back) and one mid-size (side back windows) per roll.
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:47 PM   #23
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Since you're in Halifax I would check out Fraserway RV in Bedford. They have butyl tape by the roll and also the rubber trim for the belly band. Most of the trim I have seen sold in stores are not as "heavy duty" as the original but I have seen some mail order places listing two different grades of vinyl trim.
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Old 07-16-2011, 01:06 PM   #25
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Hi, Melanie

Here's my two cents...

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4. Seams...I've read about soaking the trim in hot water, but if this doesn't work, is there trim I can buy to replace it? I don't plan to paint the ensolite either.


5. Door handle...I'd like to replace the door handle...Does anyone know if and where I can get one?



6. Fiberglass repair...If I replace the door handle (with a working lock), I will need to repair small holes when I take the padlock off. Any fiberglass repair advice for screw holes?


9. Hubcaps...they are chrome but rusted. How can I make them look better?


10. Upholstery...I'd like to cover the cushions with something temporarily until I find the 'right' fabric (1970s retro pink and orange, maybe?). Someone mentioned using table clothes...bedsheets...has anyone done a slip cover without zippers? I can sew a bit. Love to see pics...

Ensolite and seams:
Since you're not planning to paint/replace the ensolite, it might be best to just leave the interior seam molding in place. It and the ensolite clean up very nicely with ordinary cleaners like Fantastic, as long as you rinse well (leaving the cleanser on too long can dry/damage such flexible "plastics"). I find a soft brush helpful on the textured ensolite.
Door handle:
I second (third?) the suggestion that you take the doorlock to a locksmith for "repair", especially if its only problem is missing keys and frozen parts. It's very easy to remove from the door. It cost me twenty-five dollars for a locksmith to clean mine up and cut a couple of keys.
Padlock screwhole repair:
Filling these isn't a problem- bondo or even epoxy will do- but finishing is. Matching the gelcoat isn't easy, and if it's not exactly right it'll stick out badly.
A better solution for me has been to use little nylon plugs, neatly aligned. If you can't hide it, decorate it, I always say!
Hubcaps:
Wet sand and paint them!
"Temporary covers" tip, if your dinette is the same as mine..:
Fitted sheets for baby cribs are the same dimensions as the dinette seats and come in all kinds of fabrics and colors. The two odd corners can easily be sewn to the odd corner shape, but if the sheets are stretchy, just tightening the elastic gives a pretty good fit.
And "body pillow" covers fit the seat backs.

Hope this helps!

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Old 07-16-2011, 11:10 PM   #26
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Melanie

Since you're in Halifax I would check out Fraserway RV in Bedford. They have butyl tape by the roll and also the rubber trim for the belly band. Most of the trim I have seen sold in stores are not as "heavy duty" as the original but I have seen some mail order places listing two different grades of vinyl trim.
We stopped there today after weighing our camper at my husband's work...the service department was closed! My husband drives by it everyday - so thanks for the recommendation...very convenient. We should be able to get an inspection there as well.

For the record...our 1977 trillium 1300 weighed in at 1240 lbs - completely empty...no spare, no propane, no porta-potty, no furnace...no modifications either. I was a bit disappointed really.
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Thanks again for the tips...what a resource you all are!

I finally got a chance to get in 'little t' with a bucket of hot water and a bottle of Mr. Clean (the fresh orange kind). It smells so good! There wasn't much to cleaning it...a few black spots on the ensolite but overall most stains came right off. I was going to get out the bleach but it gives me such a headache...I'm now considering my options. Peroxide was mentioned and tsp...but will any product 'whiten' like bleach? I feel like I should just do it since it's completely empty.

As for the cushions...I plan to lay the foam out on a tarp tomorrow in the backyard and clean them with the garden hose. What is the best detergent to use?

I looked around the city a bit for fabric we all liked but we didn't see anything suitable...and it was all very expensive! $25/meter! So...I bought off-white queen size flat sheets to make 'inner' covers for the cushions. $5 each at Zellers! My plan is to keep them on and cover over them with the 'final' removable covers when I find the right fabric. In the meantime, I have some solid orange fabric I may use to make 'pillowcases' (as suggested) to brighten it up inside...great idea, thank you!

The more we clean...the more we love it. I claimed we bought the trillium to hold us over until we found our boler...but I don't know...this may be the one!
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As for the cushions...I plan to lay the foam out on a tarp tomorrow in the backyard and clean them with the garden hose. What is the best detergent to use?
!!!RED ALERT!!!

Hi, Melanie...
Just to let you know that I cleaned my cushions that way IN AUGUST and it took them nearly a whole month to get completely dry.
I kid you not- I went on a trip in mid- September and had to put a towel under me on the dinette bench 'cause I was getting wet cheeks-
and I do NOT mean on my face!
That nice dense foam they used back then is real high quality, but it'll soak up a lot of water...

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