Possible trillium--no title, no serial #

[jenbooks]

PS I did search this site about insulation and agree. I think Frederick has an uninsulated one and gets some ceiling condensation plus noise.

[Robin G]

Originally Posted by jenbooks

Hi, he removed the ensolite already.
That is what I thought. To bad, cause like David pointed out it can be repaired.

I also have another question for you all and btw thanks for all the help. When you find one out of state you have to get a temporary tag there right? What is required for that in terms of documents and price? IE a permanent tag in state of residence you bring various docs including proof of residency.

For us, the PO allowed us to use her tag and then send it back to her. I just showed her proof of insurance etc. She was a doll and it all worked out. But I had already checked and all I needed was to get a tranist tag (paper tag, good for 4 or so days). Easy Breeeeeeezy!

What is a two footer?

HUH? more explanation, it's not clicking for me!




Oops while I was writing this the guy called me back after I told him that a police officer has to inspect the trailer before I take it on the road. He said no way is a cop coming anywhere near his house or stuff and the trailer is no longer for sale.

So probably there is something illegal with this trailer.

Like so many have questioned, is this trailer worth it? hmmmmmmmm? Time to move on and let it go. The right trailer will come along when the time is right. Promise you, not all sales of used product are this bad. Hang in there and when the time is right it will all come together.

[Frederick L. Simson]

In California, the License Plate stays with the trailer for life, so buying a used trailer and towing it as soon as you buy it is hassle free. Police generally are unconcerned unless they have a stolen vehicle report that they're investigating. When I lived in New York the License Plate belonged to the Owner, and is removed upon sale and the new owner has to supply their own plates.

Which system does Georgia use?

The previous owner of my Compact Jr. also stripped it out and registered it as a Utility Trailer. Subsequently, the PTI License program made the distinction between a utility trailer and a Camp Trailer moot - for License plates they're treated the same. My Compact Jr. is still classified as a Utility Trailer.

Does it matter in Georgia whether it is Licensed as a Utility Trailer or a Camp Trailer?

[jenbooks]

Hi Frederick, I only know what I've read on the Georgia DMV site, and what I was told when I called.

1) I would have to bring a specific form and have a police officer inspect the trailer and sign off on it. I think that's just to be sure it's what it is and roadworthy. I would have to present that to the DMV.
2) I was told if I had no tag, I would get ticketed, and that if the PO wouldn't let me use his tag, I'd have to take my bill of sale, that officer signed form etc, and go all the way hours away to my DMV, get a tag and go all the way back and get the trailer. Or I'd get ticketed on the road. So I'm sure the tag doesn't stay
3) They do seem to distinguish, in that a utility trailer, which is something open or covered to haul equipment for recreation or business (which at this point the trailer actually was, since the insulation and kitchen was removed), is not the same as a travel trailer or camper. And they seem to have somewhat different requirements. However, anything older than 1986 and under 2000 pounds did not require a title, which is probably why the PO was able to even have it etc.
4) It's kind of moot now, except I learned a lot by researching. Because this owner is probably doing illegal things. For all I know, the trailer is hot. Or the owner himself is hot because he was adamant and quite angry over the idea of a cop coming anywhere near. I was supposed to buy the trailer, and go drive it home, and then do whatever I wanted, which is simply not legal in Georgia. In Georgia, you must have the officer inspect.

So by mentioning that to him this morning, in what I thought was a routine call saying we'd be there in two hours, I saved myself from some trouble I'm sure. I was already warned by y'all and another friend of mine in Georgia that I should not buy something without a title. However, I do think that would have been okay with an honest owner.

Last night I thought I had two trailers in mind to see this weekend. Now I have none! :-( I hate that!!! The other is a cloud in Fernandina Beach 4 1/2 hours from where I am at the moment. I texted him last night, he called this a.m., but already someone from Sarasota was on their way to buy it, the price agreed on. (((

When well priced these things go in a few hours, and I don't have the energy or possibility to always see something the moment it's listed and drop everything to drive hours.

Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

[Frederick L. Simson]

Originally Posted by Carol H

IMHO a fiberglass trailer that has had the interior wall covering removed is probable going to have condensation, heat and translucent issues. May not be the most comfortable trailer to camp in.

My Fiber Stream never had insulation nor wall covering. On cold mornings there is sometimes very fine condensation on the ceiling; but I often have to touch it to tell if there's condensation or not. The windows have worse condensation behind the closed window shades. My electric cube heater, and the Propane heater can heat the trailer to unbearably hot on a cold night. On the West Coast he 5000 BTU window air conditioner cools the trailer well up to 95 degrees outside, struggles a little between 95 and 105, and is totally ineffective above that in very low humidity. It might work better in a high humidity climate. Heat/Cooling is not an issue. The interior is not raw fiberglass; it is painted and opaque.

With the leaking issues it had when I first bought it, I was thankful there wasn't insulation or wall covering! I didn't have to gut it, I just fixed the leaks and went camping. YMMV

[jenbooks]

That's cool, Frederick. Appreciate the info though I doubt most owners will have removed insulation.

I'm kind of disappointed, this was not far away, but obviously I was dealing with a somehow illicit owner. He wasn't going to get anywhere near me once he heard a cop had to inspect it. I could practically hear him slam down the phone...

[CindyL]

You could look into campers with the fiberglass interior, i.e. Burro, Uhaul, Eggcamper, Companion, and likely more that I can't think of right now.

CindyL

[jenbooks]

Hi CindyL, the Egg's are all so new and rarely for sale. Re: burro's, I also see them and uhauls rarely, but occasionally. Let me ask, how do you determine if water leaked *between* the walls in these?

I don't mind the insulation on scamps and casitas (ratfur, or carpet, although one scamp I saw had really "mod" blue carpet all over with swirls--never saw one like that!). These are ones I've seen while camping, and owners proudly showed them off. I figured in terms of the Trillium, the insulation had just gone bad, but maybe as others point out, it could have been cleaned, anyway he removed it. Also trilliums are kind of rare in this area. Scamps and casitas are most common.
Thanks guys! Sad today.

[Donna D.]

How about a 70s Boler? Ad is nearly a month old, but may be worth looking into, interior looks clean: 1970's Boler 13' | Atlanta, Ga area. | Fiberglass RV's For Sale

[CindyL]

I don't know. I decorate; I don't repair.


CindyL

[jenbooks]

Wow, Donna, I totally missed that one and I'm looking every day. I'll call though its a long time ago. Thanks. Don't know how I missed this right in my back yard. ARGGGG.

Originally Posted by Donna D.

How about a 70s Boler? Ad is nearly a month old, but may be worth looking into, interior looks clean: 1970's Boler 13' | Atlanta, Ga area. | Fiberglass RV's For Sale

[David Tilston]

Originally Posted by jenbooks

What is a two footer?

If you are refering to my two-footitis comment, I was refering to the voice in our heads that says, "if only I had a couple feet more".3

The 4500 is about 2 feet longer then the 1300.

[jenbooks]

That's cute, David. :-)

[BCDave]

"Two-foot-itis" is an affliction most common to boat owners - they always want a boat that is two feet longer. Many RV'ers are prone to it as well, although I seem to get a variant called "four-foot-itis" having gone from a 13 Boler to a 17 Boler to a 21 Bigfoot.

There is no cure, nor is any treatment effective at relieving symptoms