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Old 03-04-2014, 07:13 PM   #29
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I'm not a Snoozy or EggCamper hater. But, I also do not like a sales pitch based on fear. They just don't have the things I feel I need to enjoy the camping experience and give me the preferred comforts. Propane being a prime example. Love the twin bed and backdoor layout of the Snoozy, but eliminated them also because I don't want to be bothered getting appliances to go in the trailer. If a builder, like Escape, gives a choice, ex. 2 burner vs 3 burner stove; stainless vs. white, with or w/o AC, etc. I can deal with those decisions. It is straight forward. I also do not want to deal with a cassette toilet and carrying it somewhere to dump. I cannot lift anything heavy sloshing around. Hooking up a hose and opening a valve is all I want to do. These companies will find their niche customers and be able to fill that small void. But it looks like for the time being, there will be more people who would like to heat. cook and have hot water with propane because it can be readily available wherever they park.
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I suspect there may be other reasons people sell their trailers - maybe camping's just not for them.

Escape makes a great trailer - as does Boler, Scamp, Casita, etc. But I want to be more hands-on, so an east coast manufacturer is what I prefer. I also like the Parkliner, and it's closer to me than the Snoozy, but I like the Snoozy's rear door layout. Actually, I like all the fiberglass trailers, and don't have anything bad to say about any of them. It's an individual choice.

All I'm trying to do is even out the discussion. Seems to be weighted against the Lil Snoozy. Perhaps with some prior justification.
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:35 PM   #31
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I suspect there may be other reasons people sell their trailers - maybe camping's just not for them.

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yup but when they decide that camping isn't there thing they don't normally stay members of Fiberglassrv with a picture of their new trailer of a different brand on their profile. LOL
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:38 PM   #32
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My first choice of trailer was Escape. But logistically, from the east coast, it didn't make sense. I appreciate all information here, but belittling the fact that Lil Snoozy is electric isn't helpful.
There are lots of happy Escape owners at, or near, the east coast now.

The OP did ask about using electric/propane vs electric only, and the mention of Lil Snoozys reluctance to do propane, but now do it as an afterthought, is not belittling or hating, just purely observation, as YES an opinion too. And opinions are what the OP is looking for.

Lil Snoozy does build in some features that many have found to their liking, and that is great for those people. Some think Escape is getting too much on the expensive side, and that is a fair observation. We must all weigh out what our preferences are, and go with it. Heck, in the Escape community itself, and due to the myriad of options available, there are many there who have different needs and wants, and choose options to suit their style, options that others consider to be not needed.

On the topic of propane, I would never consider being without it. 120V AC I could do without, but 12V DC is great for fans and lights.
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I really don't understand all the angst here. "All-electric" is a growing market in the "big RV" world. And for those who want designed-in-propane-system units, those are plentifully available, too.

Why wouldn't the same thing be true for small trailers?

Point is, if a person wants an all-electric trailer, that's fine. There are plenty of options, now including two molded fiberglass units.
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All I know is that Lil Snoozy should give me a discount:-)
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All I know is that Lil Snoozy should give me a discount:-)
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I have set my camper up so should something happen, I can live on or off grid in it. Which includes, electric, gas, solar and generator.
My home is the same way, with a well.
Here in southern Texas my home is all electric. Guess what? last week the power went out. How soon I forgot the simple things in life. [ Only my $.02 ]
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All I'm trying to do is even out the discussion. Seems to be weighted against the Lil Snoozy. Perhaps with some prior justification.
I don't think that the negative comments about Lil Snoozy are about the trailer, which has many innovative features, but against the builder who elects to tell otherwise uninformed buyers that LP is Dangerous and for that reason his product is "Safer". It's about as close to using terror tactics as you can get in sales without actually breaking the rules about misrepresentation. Their problem now is that they have to some how backtrack so they can sell trailers with the new miracle fuel, LP gas, without loosing face to prior customers.

As far as the behemoths going all electric.... Fortunately most of them don't hang in the same places we do. But with their diesel generators running all day and into the evening, those that do sure lets the rest of us know that they are there. I guess if you can afford a $200,000 "camper" you can do what ever you want, or so it seems.

We in FGRV's are but a tiny niche of the world of RVer's, hardly anyone even knows we are here.
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My first choice of trailer was Escape. But logistically, from the east coast, it didn't make sense. I appreciate all information here, but belittling the fact that Lil Snoozy is electric isn't helpful.
I believe there are now 4-5 Escape owners in Virginia/WDC metro area, 3 in Pennsylvania, One in Delaware, 2 in New Jersey and 1 in West Virginia. You are surrounded by a dozen Escapes. You should arrange to tour one and with shipping costs being split with other owners, the cost of delivery is minimal.
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Jim, though I really like the Escape, it's not the delivery that made me choose another, but the 5-day drive to BC to watch over it like a mother hen. I'm sure to pester Snoozy to death, so maybe Escape escaped!
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Everyone after exploration from all angles
has there own must have list. On a personal
basis, Snoozy had my must have list the way
I wanted. And all-electric became one of them
after learning propane was so dangerous.....LOL
........................JUST KIDDING.......................

I'm not sure what the problem is over
propane or not. Except I do remember all the
questions I had in the back of my mind when
deciding.

A live fire outside seems to fit anything I would
need that propane would supply. Except for
"inside" heat. I don't think there's enough room
in our little eggs for a fireplace..............lol.
That's from being a country boy I guess.

I think our different preferences is dictated by
the conveniences we want whether boondocking
or 30 amping. My style is taken care of by 30 amping.
I carry loads of matches for when and if I need to
start a fire outside.
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I have a Scamp that will heat with propane, hot water with propane and fridge with electric (12 aand 120V) or propane. Spoke to a mfgr. today who will only build moulded FG campers with electric, no propane. From the way he made it sound, propane is extremely dangerous in a camper. But, if I were boon docking say at Quartzsite, and wanted hot water, heat/AC, it would seem that a generator would be necessary. Courtesy dictates that a generator should not be used during sleeping hours. Two questions for those reading this:

1. Is propane all that dangerous? Are there that MANY explosions in campers every year? Are they caused by user oversight (leaving propane turned on while traveling). Or just the dangerous nature of the beast.

2. For those who are electric only, how do you handle heat/AC and hot water for bathing when there is no electric post to plug into?

I would be interested in knowing, to judge whether I would be willing to camp without the convenience propane affords and am I in THAT much danger.

Your thoughts and comments are appreciated.
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Found a Wood Burner

Here's a home made wood burning
stove in a camper. I digress.

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