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Old 03-05-2014, 01:31 PM   #57
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when I camp out in my field, I have a 15 amp circuit to keep the battery charged--if I use the "cube electric heater" to keep warm, I'm More afraid of it, that I ever would be cooking on the 2 eye stove. & the fire extinguisher is @ the door.
I see no use of having any Camper if it's all electric.
i'm way out in the boonies to begin with, when the power goes off a lot, I can always keep warm & cook in "Cassie" if it were all electric it would be (absolutely useless).
my 2 cents to this conversation..
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Personally, I find it rather humorous that anyone, trailer manufacturer or otherwise would even suggest that propane is dangerous, and then would hitch up the trailer and drive at highway speeds on roads utilized by other drivers, some of whom are incapacitated by alcohol or drugs, distracted by cell phones, shaving or putting on makeup while driving down the road, trying to deal with misbehaving children in the back seat, etc. I hardly think propane ranks anywhere near the top of the list of dangers we face while camping or towing. Maybe we better start reinforcing the roofs of fiberglass campers in case of an unexpected meteorite storm.
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I'm afraid of bears.
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I'm afraid of bears.

I've heard a propane torch is an effective bear repellant!
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I'm buying the converter! Look out bears!
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:07 PM   #62
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Propane clearly has a long (many decades) track record of safe use in campers. If you want the ability to park anywhere from a rest area in a bad storm to a totally awesome rustic campground with all the comforts of home you want propane and 12 volt. Solar makes a longer stay possible. Essentially limited only by your water and ability to deal with waste tanks.

If you use your camper more as a personal portable motel suite then maybe all electric will work for you. I don't think my sister has camped anyplace without 50 amp service in at least 7 years. Maybe from time to time they have roughed it with 30 amp. They have propane but except for cooking and maybe fridge when they only had 30 amp service they don't really "need" propane. But I bet it won't hurt the resale value to have propane when it comes time to sell.

Propane has been used in campers for way too long to have a manufacturer say it's a safety issue. I think if you have propane the camper may have to be certified, at least in some states. Bet that certification of the camper propane system has a fee to the manufacturer.
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In the US, Trailers, RVs, etc. must meet NFPA 1192 regulations. And any trailers sold in Canada must meet CSA.
As Carl H. said earlier, you are dealing with startup companies with sales in the per hundreds. That may not have the expertise to integrate Lp into there manufacturing, yet. And or decided it wasn't worth it, nor wanting to except the liability.
The placement of just one screw in the wrong place could be catastrophic for a manufacturer. Heck ya, I'd be frighten as someone putting my name on the final product.
One gets what you pay for. Mines better than yours doesn't get it. If you don't like there product, don't buy it.
When I bought my first camper I thought I knew what I wanted. Guess what, I didn't. Sometimes I still don't, depends what day it is.
But, I'm glad I can find some constructive points of view when I need it.
Just my $ .02
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:43 PM   #64
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In the US, Trailers, RVs, etc. must meet NFPA 1192 regulations. And any trailers sold in Canada must meet CSA.
At least in the U.S.A., there's no agency charged with actual oversight of RV manufacturers, nor are there any enforceable "codes" attached to the construction of the living areas. The NFPA sets standards, but compliance by manufacturers is voluntary.

The RVIA does have a compliance certification program that includes inspections etc., but membership is strictly voluntary. My look at the various websites of American-made fiberglass trailers indicates that of that group only Oliver actually subscribes to this service. See this link. ( Oliver also belongs to/submits to inspections by the NATM, another industry group aiming to improve safety etc. in the construction of light-to-medium-weight trailers.)

Rules may be different in Canada...I think I read somewhere that Canadian manufacturers must get CSA (Canadian version of RVIA) certification. But I don't see any language re. such certification at Escape's website, so not sure if that's true or not.
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Going back a few posts, (59, 60 & 61) a very important question was not asked:

What do the Bears do when their black tank is full???

I've heard to: a) never get between a mother bear and, her cubs and: b) to never get between a bear and their black tank......... and c) Always hike with a friend that you can outrun should you inadvertently do a or b.
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Bob,
You left out answer D. Simply bring along a tank of propane and throw it at the bear. The propane, being so dangerous, will explode or at least combust, eliminating the bear. Problem solved. Even the slow runner doesn't get eaten!
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Now you did it....

Next post may well be from the BWA (The Bear Whisperers Association) who will be after us for even suggesting that we might hurt a bear that is attacking us.

But I am sure you are right about your suggestion. Every one knows that when an LP tank brushes up against anything furry that it's sure to explode
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If the tank is empty, it isn't dangerous to any form of life, and is a lot lighter for carrying. The bear, however, will see the tank, think it's dangerous, become scared and run away. So the BWA can rest easy when it sees me and my (empty) tank.
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