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Old 03-04-2014, 01:27 PM   #1
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Propane & Electric vs Just Electric

I have a Scamp that will heat with propane, hot water with propane and fridge with electric (12 aand 120V) or propane. Spoke to a mfgr. today who will only build moulded FG campers with electric, no propane. From the way he made it sound, propane is extremely dangerous in a camper. But, if I were boon docking say at Quartzsite, and wanted hot water, heat/AC, it would seem that a generator would be necessary. Courtesy dictates that a generator should not be used during sleeping hours. Two questions for those reading this:

1. Is propane all that dangerous? Are there that MANY explosions in campers every year? Are they caused by user oversight (leaving propane turned on while traveling). Or just the dangerous nature of the beast.

2. For those who are electric only, how do you handle heat/AC and hot water for bathing when there is no electric post to plug into?

I would be interested in knowing, to judge whether I would be willing to camp without the convenience propane affords and am I in THAT much danger.

Your thoughts and comments are appreciated.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:35 PM   #2
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Propane is very dangerous. To all-electric trailers manufacturers
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I have a feeling you spoke to Jim Palmer of EggCamper, his units are all electric for the reasons you stated. Having owned one I can say without solar panels and several batteries, Quartzite is out of the picture. . If you have hookups most of the time it is a nice camper, bigger than Scamps and Casitas, both of which have propane. Then there is Parkliner, LilSnoozy both relatively new and one of those are all electric and finally Oliver and Escape Trailers who are the only major trailer manufacturers to offer propane and solar from the factory.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:43 PM   #4
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Google this site, Casita, any other RV site using the search term "explosion" and let us know how many posts you find describing actual explosive events with propane.
And, if you go all-electric, make sure you don't get electrocuted or suffer a fire ( isn't electrical one of the most cited sources of fires in homes? ).

Can't beat the convenience of propane / electric.
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Alice, in your time here or at rallies how many trailers with propane are you aware of having had bad propane stores to tell you about or have you seen? ;-)

There was an thread that addressed some of the issues with the all electrical trailers in the past few days called Installing a 12v DC refrigerator in a Lil Snoozy that you may find useful in deciding if its for you or not.

As you have had the option of using propane on your current trailer I don't know why but I have a hunch you may not be overly happy with an all electric trailer.... but could be wrong. :-)
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LP Danger = Pure Hokum

There are millions of propane equipped RV's out there and I'll bet that the number of fires per million miles can be counted on one finger. That's shame that one builder continues to conduct his scare campaign about LP fuel in FGRV's.

It used to be that all electric trailers were called "Park Models" because an RV park was about the only place you could stay with them. If going from RV Park to RV Park, and never staying in a National Park, State Park or boon docking is ones agenda, I suppose it might work.

To quote a famous footwear maker>>> An all electric FGRV SOX
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I have a Scamp that will heat with propane, hot water with propane and fridge with electric (12 aand 120V) or propane. Spoke to a mfgr. today who will only build moulded FG campers with electric, no propane.

From the way he made it sound, propane is extremely dangerous in a camper.
Sounds like Lil Snoozy.... they posted a thread here back when they were starting out "explaining how dangerous propane is", yada yada yada. General theme was sort of "we care a lot more about your safety than the other guys do!".

Here's the link to that thread: What are your thoughts?

Then as now, (and regardless of who's saying it) most here saw the "propane is bad" thing for what it was: just self-serving bushwa unsupported by any evidence.
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General theme was sort of "we care a lot more about your safety than the other guys do!". <_&lt

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The simple fact is when you look at the fiberglass trailer manufactures past and present as well as SOB's that there are very few manufactures who make an all electric RV either now or in the past. So somehow all over the world millions of people every week-end manage to safely camp with propane appliances without incident.

To be honest I am beginning to think that the one or two manufactures here in NA who continue to promote the all electric trailers using scare tactics may simple not have the staff qualified to install the propane appliances. Try as I might, I just can't come up with any other rational or reasonable or supportive explanation for the reasons they give for it. But thats just MHO.
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We were so happy cooking on the propane stove in our trailer that when we needed a new stove at home we switched to propane. Raz
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Sergey: Yup, haha.

Jim: Yes, it was EggCamper. Your personal knowledge of that product is helpful. I want to be able to go to NP's and be comfortable. Not spend $18K+ and not get full use of it.

Glenn: My reasoning leans towards if it is that BIG of a problem, there would be a huge uproar from the campers in this country. A auto mfg. has a major recall covering 6 years of autos because of 11 accidents.

Carol: You are correct. I have never heard of any tales or naysayers at any of the rallies, or other campers that propane is evil. I have doubts that I would be happy with a totally electric camper, but wanted to hear from others and their solutions to not using propane. In looking for a new camper, I want to eliminate any that would not fit my camping needs. It's tough to find National/State parks or WalMart parking lots that have 30 AMP electric. But, I can get by for a few days if there is propane.

Bob: I agree

Francesca: It is a scare tactic. For anyone who has never camped with propane before, it may be very convincing. I have a feeling those mfgs. who make those claims only want to build all electric because of insurance/mfg. costs. IMHO.

Living along the I-15 corridor between LV and SLC, there are thousands of trailers traveling to the National parks in UT. every year. There has only been one, in the 8 years I've lived here that caught on fire. That was due to the owner not shutting of the gas while driving and a fluke spark. I always turn the gas off when breaking camp, just to give myself extra insurance and peace of mind.

So, it appears two nice FG trailers are eliminated. Wonder what their sale numbers are compared to the same size Scamp/Casita/Escape?
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Ooops, another Urban Myth surfaces.

That camper fire was not caused by the LP tank being left ON, it was cause by something else failing, usually through operator or maintenance error.

But yes, some do like that "Extra Margin" whatever it may, or may not, be.
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So, it appears two nice FG trailers are eliminated.
Alice - Don't eliminate Lil Snoozy. It can be equipped with propane.
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Alice - Don't eliminate Lil Snoozy. It can be equipped with propane.
As an afterthought?
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As an afterthought?
Pretty well, the way it was explained here a few weeks ago the trailer purchaser needs to supply the propane appliances to them... go figure...
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