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Old 12-21-2014, 10:42 AM   #15
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The "banana" cushion is actually designed to go between the back/top bunk and the front of the trailer when the couch mode. The keeps the back/top bunk cushion from getting bowed by being pressed into the curve in the front of the trailer.
I thought the banana cushion was merely a filler to be put in the space between the bottom couch cushion and the front wall when you use it as a bunk bed set-up? We don't use the bunk beds, and leave the little cushion home. Exactly where would you place it and still be able to put the couch back in place? It doesn't seem like it would fit behind there, but our trailer is in storage, so I can't check now.

We use the ledge on top of the couch for the awning crank, bunk poles and flag pole. It works well for that.

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I thought the banana cushion was merely a filler to be put in the space between the bottom couch cushion and the front wall when you use it as a bunk bed set-up? We don't use the bunk beds, and leave the little cushion home. Exactly where would you place it and still be able to put the couch back in place?
I leave the banana cushion in the same spot it belongs when using the lower bunk but I turn it on its side - simple drop the upper bunk down to create a couch. The back of the couch will be on a little bit of an angle but on mine its not much and or all that noticeable. I have also left it laying as it would be as a filler and been able to push to the back of the couch down - takes a good push though.
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I thought the banana cushion was merely a filler to be put in the space between the bottom couch cushion and the front wall when you use it as a bunk bed set-up? We don't use the bunk beds, and leave the little cushion home. Exactly where would you place it and still be able to put the couch back in place? It doesn't seem like it would fit behind there, but our trailer is in storage, so I can't check now.

We use the ledge on top of the couch for the awning crank, bunk poles and flag pole. It works well for that.

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First let me correct a statement I made. I doubt the placement will effect bowing of the top bunk.
I think it works better with screen door option in place. When I received my Scamp from Scamp it was in place behind the top bunk/couch back. I think I've moved it a couple times to clean around it. With it in place where it would be using the bottom bunk, the top bunk/couch back is lowered in place with the main bottom cushion removed. Once the back is in place the bottom cushion is put into place. The bottom cushion fits a bit tight between the kitchen counter and back on one end and screen door panel and back on the other end. This allows the back to have some slant to it.
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Tried it today, and it does work. If you turn the banana cushion on its long edge at the back of the bench, you can indeed lower the backrest and put the seat cushion in front. I don't notice any difference in the angle of the backrest - still has a comfortable slant. The seat cushion does fit more snugly than before, so I think Byron is right - it might not work as well without the screen door option. The cushion would tend to slide out past the edge of the bench near the door. The frame for the screen door acts as a stop. One more loose item neatly out of the way. Thanks, Byron!
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Old 12-21-2014, 05:34 PM   #19
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would a couple of well-placed Velcro dots help the banana in place?
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:28 PM   #20
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Byron you're a genius, Carol and Jon, thanks for checking that out. Now I'm anxious to try it myself. I guess the cushions fit so tight as a couch, I didn't try to stuff the banana behind the backrest. If it causes it to have a bit of slant; all the better. I've seen countless photos of the banana cushion balanced on top of the backrest. It never looked quite right, and it interfered with the curtains. I believe Scamp even recommends putting it on top. You learn something every day.

I was also thinking of looking for a way to mount a couple take-down fishing rods behind the couch some day. I'll have to see if there's still room for that. Our trailer is currently incarcerated in a U'haul storage lot for the winter. We're going to bust it out in Feb for some sun, sand and palm trees in FL. We can't wait!

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Byron you're a genius, Carol and Jon, thanks for checking that out. Now I'm anxious to try it myself. I guess the cushions fit so tight as a couch, I didn't try to stuff the banana behind the backrest. If it causes it to have a bit of slant; all the better. I've seen countless photos of the banana cushion balanced on top of the backrest. It never looked quite right, and it interfered with the curtains. I believe Scamp even recommends putting it on top. You learn something every day.

I was also thinking of looking for a way to mount a couple take-down fishing rods behind the couch some day. I'll have to see if there's still room for that. Our trailer is currently incarcerated in a U'haul storage lot for the winter. We're going to bust it out in Feb for some sun, sand and palm trees in FL. We can't wait!

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I think was Joy's trailer I saw clips mounted on closet wall, between the screen door mounting and outside door for holding fishing rods. Looked like it worked pretty well.
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Old 12-22-2014, 07:04 AM   #22
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It will be interesting to see how things fit when I replace that single bottom sofa cushion
with 3 individual cushions. 😉

I've just recently replaced the foam in in the bed/dinette cushions with higher quality
N36 foam that is still very firm and supportive but indents/deflects more easily at hips
and shoulders. That should provide more comfortable sleeping and didn't cost much
more than buying a foam topper that I would have to find a place to store. 😃

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I think was Joy's trailer I saw clips mounted on closet wall, between the screen door mounting and outside door for holding fishing rods. Looked like it worked pretty well.
I used that area to hang my awning pole. It would work well for fishing rods.
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would a couple of well-placed Velcro dots help the banana in place?

I'd guess it would, if you want to keep the banana cushion on top of the seat back.

I was glad to learn an alternate way to store the bunk parts and cushion, but as to the "right" way, I'll stick to my original response: anyway you want!

I am actually wondering whether storing it behind the seat back might result in deformation of the foam over time, since everything is squished pretty tightly. Thought I'd leave it a few weeks and see what happens when I open it up.

To turn this thread in a slightly different direction...

The one problem I have with the cushions is that the covers seem to want to rotate on the foam so the seams don't line up on the edges. Certain cushions seem to be more prone to do this, and the banana is the worst. Causes? Remedies?
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Old 12-22-2014, 11:24 AM   #25
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Jon,

I had the same issue and concern about the seams on the cushions
moving around.

When I replaced my bed/dinette foam, as I remember the conversation,
the owner of the foam shop told me that there were two reasons for this.
He said that (1) the foam was not a terribly snug fit inside the cover and
(2) they left the slippery plastic film on the foam after insertion into the cover.

With the existing cushions, he said that you could open the zipper and
reach inside and grab a handful (or two or ???) of that slippery plastic
and just rip it loose and remove it from the cover.

To get the foam inside those smallish zippers, I guess that most everyone
uses some thin plastic (even a trash bag might do if you were doing this
yourself) around the cushion and then applies suction (like a shop vac)
to a single opening in that plastic. That sucks the whole foam cushion
block down to about one third of its original size and makes it relatively
easy to insert into that zippered opening. Once the foam is inside the
cover, you simply allow the air to reenter the plastic and the cushion
expands back to full size.

In the following thread, Carol H suggests that leaving the plastic might
offer some protection from soiling due to spills or ??? (Maybe you
could just remove the plastic from the sides and leave some plastic
on the larger flat surfaces or maybe simply using Scotchguard (as I
did) on the cushions surfaces would offer enough protection from soiling? )

You will have to decide for yourself.

New Scamp "hard cushion" remedies

The new N36 foam (that I put in) not only deflects more at the shoulders
and hips but is also snugger fit. I have not yet pulled all (or lots) of the
plastic off of the new foam but, if the seams still slip around, that will
likely be my next move.

The owner of the foam shop also told me that, if I really wanted to stay
with those original harder cushions, that the best thing to do might be
to stomp on it or put the cushion between two clean sheets of plywood
and run over it with a truck (or car).

The idea seems to be that you would have to crush some of those more
rigid foam cells; just sleeping on the foam cushions is unlikely to do that
... or at least do it very fast.

When you put a cushion on the clean living room floor and stomp on it,
your entire body weight is concentrated into a very few square inches
on the bottoms of your feet and you truly crush the foam in small areas.
When you just sleep on the cushions, your body weight is spread over
many more square inches and, aside from sitting on the cushions or
kneeling on the bed, you are unlikely to sink in very far and crush many
of those rigid cells.

When I stomped on my old cushions, they did seem to soften up a bit.
However, I decided to get the higher quality foam and the snugger fit.
If the new foam is still a little uncomfortable, I will still have the option
of adding a mattress topper in the future.

That's what I think that I have learned so far.
I hope it helps!

As always, YMMV.

Good luck!

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You could also open up the cushion and slide in a square or strip of non skid drawer liner between the plastic and the cushion fabric on the bottom side of the cushion to keep the fabric from sliding on the plastic.
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Good ideas. Guess I'll start by looking to see what's inside already. If there's plastic, I may remove it entirely on the banana, since it's not as vulnerable to spills. Carol, your solution sounds good for the broad, flat cushions. Oddly, besides the banana, the only two that have the problem are the front seat bottom and one of the two dinette backrests. It'll be interesting to see if the plastic inside is what makes the difference.
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Good ideas. Guess I'll start by looking to see what's inside already. If there's plastic, I may remove it entirely on the banana, since it's not as vulnerable to spills. Carol, your solution sounds good for the broad, flat cushions. Oddly, besides the banana, the only two that have the problem are the front seat bottom and one of the two dinette backrests. It'll be interesting to see if the plastic inside is what makes the difference.
Once you have taken the cover off & tried to put it back on the banana you will discover why I suggest that people seriously consider *not* removing the plastic Not to mention unless your on a first name bases with your dry cleaner you may find it hard to purchase the correct weight of plastic to use the next time you want to get the covers on or off.

The none skid stuff should work with the banana as well - just use a narrow strip - it does not need to cover the whole bottom of the cushions - a small section of it may just be enough to keep it the plastic from moving.
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