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Old 01-22-2011, 04:12 PM   #1
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Scamp with shower question?

I have a question for you Scamp owners that have the bath/shower. I understand that to use the shower the fresh water pump must run. That is the same with any trailer. But after reading some thread here, do I understand correctly, that the shower does not use a gravity drain and a second gray water pump is used to pump the water into the gray water tank? Or am I out in left field here? That would be different than any other camper I have owned in the past and seems a bit odd to me. But I suppose the compact design has some drawbacks. Thanks.
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Old 01-22-2011, 05:15 PM   #2
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I have a question for you Scamp owners that have the bath/shower. I understand that to use the shower the fresh water pump must run. That is the same with any trailer. But after reading some thread here, do I understand correctly, that the shower does not use a gravity drain and a second gray water pump is used to pump the water into the gray water tank? Or am I out in left field here? That would be different than any other camper I have owned in the past and seems a bit odd to me. But I suppose the compact design has some drawbacks. Thanks.
Jerry you understand correctly. The shower drain has to have the pump on because the shower drain pipe(hose) runs parallel along the outside bottom of the trailer to the gray tank. There is also a clean out plug in the drain hose that needs to be unscrewed and cleaned out occasionally. It is is easily accessed under the trailer just a foot or two from the shower drain. Ours has the side bath, but I assume the front bath has a similar set up. I hope this helps. Ron W.
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Old 01-22-2011, 06:03 PM   #3
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OK thanks.

Does the gray water tank have a seperate gate valve or is it's drain tied into the black water tank drain pipe?
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Old 01-22-2011, 08:04 PM   #4
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OK thanks.
Does the gray water tank have a seperate gate valve or is it's drain tied into the black water tank drain pipe?
On the 16 with a side bath I believe it drains directly into the gray water.
Only the front bath has a drain pump.
There is a separate drain for each tank.
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Old 01-23-2011, 05:50 AM   #5
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Yeah, my 1988 side bath does not have a pump for the gray tank. Just a hose that looks like a garden hose that runs to the gray tank.

I find the separate valves on the tanks to be a PITA. YMMV
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I have a question for you Scamp owners that have the bath/shower. I understand that to use the shower the fresh water pump must run. That is the same with any trailer. But after reading some thread here, do I understand correctly, that the shower does not use a gravity drain and a second gray water pump is used to pump the water into the gray water tank? Or am I out in left field here? That would be different than any other camper I have owned in the past and seems a bit odd to me. But I suppose the compact design has some drawbacks. Thanks.
If you're hooked up to city water you don't need to turn the fresh water pump on. You would only need the drain pump in that case for the front shower because the drop floor makes the drain too low to drain back to the grey tank without assistance.

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On the 16 with a side bath I believe it drains directly into the gray water.
Only the front bath has a drain pump.
There is a separate drain for each tank.
Floyd,
My 16SD has the shower drain pumping directly to the grey tank, but there is only one valve involved in draining that tank on mine. The only other valve is the black tank for the toilet.

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I believe Floyd mean two valves, one for the gray water and one for the backwater which necessitates two hoses run to the sewer. Although the one for the gray water can be a garden-hose type if the valve cap and sewer connection have the fittings. Still a PITA IMHO.
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My 92 side bath also has a seperate pump for the shower drain which pumps to the grey water tank. Switch is on the back wall of the bathroom. If boom docking and wanting to to save power normally I do not run it while actually showering - tend to turn it on when finished as the floor is deep enought to hold the water from a short/fast shower.

As with all the water taps in the trailer, the water pump needs to be on if you are not connected to city water.

The grey water tank does indeed have a seperate gate valve from the black water.
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Old 01-23-2011, 03:04 PM   #10
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Thanks everybody. I think I go it. A pump that pumps the shower drain water into the gray tank. It doesn't necessarily need to be run constantly while showering. Just make sure the shower basin doesn't run over. And if it does, you are using too much water anyway. So turn the pump on when you are done showering to drain the basin and to save battery life when not plugged in. That's a good tip.

And there are two gate valves. One to drain the black water tank and a separate one to drain the gray water tank, all though, that one may not really be considered a gate valve, but a valve of some kind just the same.
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And there are two gate valves. One to drain the black water tank and a separate one to drain the gray water tank, all though, that one may not really be considered a gate valve, but a valve of some kind just the same.
Jerry the gray water gate valves looks just like the black water value and can use the exact same sewer hose and hookups. EXCEPT the gray water bayonet cap has a fitting for a garden hose and there's also a fitting on the sewer plug cap. So that means you could use either kind of hose. OR, if you need to have both tanks draining, you need two hoses. One a sewer hose the other a garden hose.

Enough potty talk
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Ok so nothing happens when I switch the pump on the back wall.. What now.. Where do I look to go on from here? This is the first time we have used the shower and the people before us never used the shower at all. This is a 2010 16 ft front shower scamp.
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Thanks for posting the question. I went out to my trailer to check something before answering your question and discovered the screw holding the strap that holds the pump had pulled out. No biggie but I'd rather have the pump supported by the strap than the hoses.

Scamp wiring ,how can I say it politely, sucks. They use twist connectors with abandon. I just undid the ones on my water pump and could see some corrosion.

So: all connectors and connections are suspect. The first thing that I do in this situation and yes, I am serious, is, with the switch on, give the pump a couple of good thunks (technical term). On my 13 the back of the switch and the terminals are accessible from the locker. I'd check for voltage at the switch. I'd also check the wires under the trailer by the pump as there's probably some connections there. If so, undo each one and scrape the corrosion from the wires.

Electrical items sitting unused often don't function after a period of time.

Try the above items and it's likely you'll find the problem

Good luck
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The other possibility is the pump was never winterized and it is shot. Previous owners may not have realised the need if they never used the shower. The pump is tested at the factory so it ships with fluid in the pump.
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