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10-09-2016, 06:27 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Walter
Trailer: 2017 Escape 17B
SW Virginia
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Trailer weights thread
With apologies. I should have bookmarked it long ago, but would someone please post a link to the trailer weights post, and many thanks.
Walt
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Past owner of 1995 13' Casita, 1994 16' Casita, 2012 Parkliner, 2002 17' Bigfoot.
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10-09-2016, 06:34 PM
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Name: J
Isle of Wight
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Originally Posted by WaltP
With apologies. I should have bookmarked it long ago, but would someone please post a link to the trailer weights post, and many thanks.
Walt
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This one?
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...tml#post217169
Cheers,
Jim
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10-09-2016, 06:48 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Walter
Trailer: 2017 Escape 17B
SW Virginia
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That's the one Jim. Many thanks. Hope to see you at Pineknot.
Walt
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Past owner of 1995 13' Casita, 1994 16' Casita, 2012 Parkliner, 2002 17' Bigfoot.
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10-09-2016, 08:09 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
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And there is at least one spreadsheet that make the data much easier to work with...
http://lakeshoreimages.com/spreadsheets/Weight.xls
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10-09-2016, 09:21 PM
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member
Name: J
Isle of Wight
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WaltP
That's the one Jim. Many thanks. Hope to see you at Pineknot.
Walt
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Hi Walt,
Clare and I will be there - sleeping in our Dodge Caravan for now.
Hope to get a tour of your Bigfoot!
Cheers,
Jim
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10-10-2016, 11:40 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Walter
Trailer: 2017 Escape 17B
SW Virginia
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Private tour guaranteed. I didn't realize you didn't do it last year.
Walt
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Past owner of 1995 13' Casita, 1994 16' Casita, 2012 Parkliner, 2002 17' Bigfoot.
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10-10-2016, 04:11 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 16 ft Side Dinette
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WaltP
With apologies. I should have bookmarked it long ago, but would someone please post a link to the trailer weights post, and many thanks.
Walt
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Every trailer will weigh differently; depending on options and how much stuff you take along. You need to actually weigh yours to know for sure.
The charts etc, will give you a ballpark range ... which is probably "Close Enough for All Practical Purposes"
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10-10-2016, 05:00 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Michael
Trailer: Trail Cruiser
Alberta
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Go to a highway weight scale, the differences between the same unit can be significant.
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10-10-2016, 05:08 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
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The "Trailer Weights in the Real World" thread has value as it gives you a range of weights for your trailer. That's all it claims to do.
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10-10-2016, 05:16 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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There's a 13' Boler for sale on Fiberglass-4-Sale. There's three Boler weights in Frederick's Real World thread. The ad says it weighs 800 lbs, the three Bolers range from 1300lbs to 2200lbs loaded for camping. This not only tells us the seller doesn't have a clue, but folks who own Bolers pack amounts of items totally different.
So as Glenn says...
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Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo
The "Trailer Weights in the Real World" thread has value as it gives you a range of weights for your trailer. That's all it claims to do.
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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10-10-2016, 07:22 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 16 ft Side Dinette
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_L
Go to a highway weight scale, the differences between the same unit can be significant.
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I don't know if highway scales are accurate enough for what you want, but could be a quick way to get overall and axle weights.
A feed store or grain elevator scale may be willing to let you take the time to get individual axle weights on TV and trailer.
If you can, unhitch the trailer on the scale to get total gross trailer weight.
Then subtract the trailer axle weight for the hitch weight.
Take this from an engineer who worked at weighing heavy earthmoving machines.
Be sure the approach and departure aprons are level with the scale platform so everything sits level as you weigh each axle.
Do not hold the brakes or turn the steering . Put transmission in neutral.
Your most accurate reading will be with the whole rig on the scale at once.
Your individual axle weights should add up to within 1/2% of the total rig weight.
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10-10-2016, 11:30 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Michael
Trailer: Trail Cruiser
Alberta
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Sounds good to me Wayne. Your thoughts on my approach please? I weighed my tow vehicle on the highway weigh scales just south of Calgary. Next I weighed tow vehicle with my trailer attached. The difference would be my tongue weight? Then I weighed my trailer dry and again when loaded. The dry weight was within 5 Kg of the dry weight listed in the manual. The GVW was far less than the max listed in the manual. After weighing my trailer, I stepped on the scale with my trailer and it increased by 80 Kg which tells me the scale is reasonably accurate. Cheers,
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10-11-2016, 03:31 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 16 ft Side Dinette
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_L
Sounds good to me Wayne. Your thoughts on my approach please? I weighed my tow vehicle on the highway weigh scales just south of Calgary. Next I weighed tow vehicle with my trailer attached. The difference would be my tongue weight? Then I weighed my trailer dry and again when loaded. The dry weight was within 5 Kg of the dry weight listed in the manual. The GVW was far less than the max listed in the manual. After weighing my trailer, I stepped on the scale with my trailer and it increased by 80 Kg which tells me the scale is reasonably accurate. Cheers,
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Sounds right. I woud be surprised if the hwy scales can measure and closer than to the nearest 50 kg (100 lb) But, with modern scales using stain gauges instead of balace beams they could be down to plus or minus 5 kg.
If you weigh the TV with trailer attached, but the trailer wheels off the scale, yes, the difference is the added tongue weight. I hope you did not have the brakes on.
You know that the Tongue (hitch) weight acting behind the rear axle takes weight off the front wheels. You can calculate how much by multiplying the hitch weight times the distance from hitch ball to rear axle divided by the wheel base of the TV. And, the amount taken off the front is added to the rear axle.
That is called "weight transfer"
If your TV is front wheel drive, you lose traction. If rear wheel drive, you gain traction. You can reduce from tire pressures and increase rear tire pressure to compensate for the changes in load. ..... Have Fun!
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10-11-2016, 04:35 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Michael
Trailer: Trail Cruiser
Alberta
Posts: 825
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Thanks Wayne. Enjoy your travels.
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