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Old 08-12-2008, 06:17 PM   #29
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Just weighed my 13' Perris Pacer yesterday - 1110 total and 950 on the axle - thats pretty empty - no water, full propane tank and battery.

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Old 08-15-2008, 07:27 PM   #30
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When we bought our 1986 17' Bigfoot in June we weighed at a truck scale--right at 3,000 pounds. I cannot remember the tongue weight. At the time we had a 12v battery on the tongue and two 6v batteries going for a ride inside. The tanks were mostly empty and we had little gear. This seemed heavy to us--perhaps the trailer was retaining water. Since then we flooded the countertop and discovered that the drain holes in the body do indeed work. We're not sure why this trailer is so heavy. It does have an air conditioner and a heavy-duty steel channel bumper. BTW, today we dropped by a local dealer and saw a couple of brand-new versions of our trailer. 3700+ pounds dry weight!
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Old 08-15-2008, 11:30 PM   #31
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I've never been in a BigFeets, but I suspect that the good stuf like double-glazed windows add pounds. They are apparently very well made and quality stuf often weighs more.
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:14 PM   #32
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I hate to be coy, But I wish to protect the privacy of the individuals who used my service.
Each person's trailer is going to be different, even a group of the same make and model trailer will have widely varying weights. The group of Casitas I weighed bear this out, no two were the same weight even though most were the same model.

I've been asked to share what some of those individual weights are. I find That to be an ethical slippery slope. Here is what someone who I will weigh in future has said to me:
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I would like to know what I have. Not to publish, just for my information.
This is the attitude I assumed each of the participants in Oregon held. I do not want to betray any single person's trust. I felt that averaging a "large" population of similar trailers would give generic statistical data that could be broadcast without individual harm, as I did with the group of 17' Casitas. (They were the only trailers I weighed more than one example of.)

I have found that weighing trailers is like answering the question, "Does this dress make me look fat?"
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:36 PM   #33
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:56 PM   #34
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I was wondering if the person with the 1989 Bigfoot 17.5 could please post their weight?

We just bought a 1986 Bigfoot. The NADA guestimated the weight at 1850, which is about the same as our Apache Popup was, but it has significantly more storage space! I am trying to pack it with light things (for example plastic plates instead of china ones, light fleecy blankets instead of the heavier, furry types, etc.) but I am still worried about the weight. While our Dodge Dakota has a towing capacity of about 3300 lbs., we have a bumper hitch which is rated at 2000 lbs. (according to the guy my husband bought it from, which I can't look up anywhere on the Internet). I am a little worried that even the base weight of our trailer could be over the 2000 lbs., never mind the gear!
Bigfoot is interesting. First, the 1980s trailers were the 15B17 series and are 17' long rather than 17.5 as the current 25B175 series trailers. The 25B175 series have a GVWR of 4300 lbs. They began production in '05. The earlier 15B17 trailers since 2000 (or so) have some options not necessarily available in the '80s models such as the winter package which adds several hundred pounds. IIRC, the '04 15B17CB I had came with an "as equipped" weight of about 2800 lbs and a GVWR of 3500 lbs.

A/C adds a couple of hundred pounds, and a water heater adds some eighty pounds (full) by itself. Weight in your tanks is the most significant single load you can easily control. As an example, my 25B25RQ has three 40 gallon tanks. At approximately 8 lbs/gallon, that's a LOT of weight potential if the tanks are full.

It's a safe bet that the base weight of your early Bigfoot is over 2000 lbs. Only a scale can tell you for sure!

Don't risk using a bumper hitch. Have a good quality frame-mounted receiver hitch installed.

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Old 08-19-2008, 07:41 PM   #35
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When we bought our 1986 17' Bigfoot in June we weighed at a truck scale--right at 3,000 pounds. I cannot remember the tongue weight. At the time we had a 12v battery on the tongue and two 6v batteries going for a ride inside. The tanks were mostly empty and we had little gear. This seemed heavy to us--perhaps the trailer was retaining water. Since then we flooded the countertop and discovered that the drain holes in the body do indeed work. We're not sure why this trailer is so heavy. It does have an air conditioner and a heavy-duty steel channel bumper. BTW, today we dropped by a local dealer and saw a couple of brand-new versions of our trailer. 3700+ pounds dry weight!
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My '96 Bigfoot 17 was close to 3500 lbs in camping mode (gear, pots and pans, bedding, towels, a bit of water etc). I had 3 12-volt batteries (one on tongue and two inside the front compartment). I was a bit concerned about the 3500 lb rated axle, and before I traded it, had to get the axle re-aligned. My 25 foot model is about 6300 lbs in camping mode, so they are not light
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:01 PM   #36
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Rick, any suggestions on how to lighten my Bigfoot up? Pushing 3000lbs is not anywhere near what I consider light. Being an '80's model it does not have a winter package and the windows are single glazed.
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Lainey,

Short of ripping out appliances and not carrying anything in the trailer, I doubt you can make it any lighter if your tanks are empty.

What's the problem with dragging 3,000 lbs around? Scamp 16s hit that, and Casita 17s are typically over that by a bunch.

/s/ NOT Rick.
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Rick, any suggestions on how to lighten my Bigfoot up? Pushing 3000lbs is not anywhere near what I consider light. Being an '80's model it does not have a winter package and the windows are single glazed.
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I agree with Roger's post. I did not have the winter package either.
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Old 08-20-2008, 06:46 PM   #40
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Thanks Roger & Rick, thought it was worth asking, but was the response I expected. I guess it's not that bad, I just keep thinking how great it would be to pull around something in the 1500# range. The truck wouldn't even care at that weight.
I'll tell my trailer weight here, but no way am I posting my mileage from the trip to OR.

Now I'm getting a complex - Do I look fat in this trailer?
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:38 AM   #41
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I recently bought a 1991 17' Bigfoot, and just got back from a two week camping trip with it. With minimal gear in it, and water tanks all empty it weighed in at 2500lbs not including tounge weight which I estimate at ~250. So in total approx. 2750lbs. Since the dry weight written on the trailer is 1870lbs, I can't really account for the extra 880 lbs...

One full propane tank and one empty: 40lbs
One battery: 60lbs
Spare wheel: 50lbs
Awning: 50lbs
My gear: 200lbs.
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400lbs.

Where the other 440lbs comes from is beyond me. I have no AC. Does have a hot water heater, but this should be included in dry weight along with the fridge, etc... no?

Towing with 1998 4runner V6 by the way (rated for 5000# towing). A little underpowered, but does the job. A little slow on steeper hills. Wouldn't want to tow it lots.
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:18 PM   #42
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Towing with 1998 4runner V6 by the way (rated for 5000# towing). A little underpowered, but does the job. A little slow on steeper hills. Wouldn't want to tow it lots.
Ken, we tow our Casita (2820 lbs when loaded for a trip) with a 1997 4Runner equipped with the tow package. We drive so as to stay under 2000 rpm. Consequently, we generally slow to about 40 mph (65 kph) going up long or steep hills.

Apart from that, however, we don't seem to be underpowered. I hope you will not take offense if I ask whether, before you accelerate, you turn off the overdrive and turn on ECT Power?

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