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Old 07-22-2008, 08:34 AM   #1
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So for all of you that got weighed at the Oregon rally, what did your weight come in at?
I am especially interested in the burros...
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:38 AM   #2
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Pamela - FYI, I think Frederick is going to post all the information from the weigh-in, in generic form, when he gets back home. He mentioned something about posting later in the week.
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:43 PM   #3
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I weighed my Perris Pacer last night on the way home from Oregon. Came up with a total trailer weight of 1780lbs with 1500lbs on the axle for a tongue weight of 280lbs. This was with empty tanks. So much for the 1500lb tow rating of the Element!


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Old 07-23-2008, 07:19 PM   #4
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I think Frederick is going to post all the information from the weigh-in, [b]in generic form, when he gets back home.
The weigh-in produced some surprising results!
I posted the results for the average of 6 Casita 17' trailers HERE.

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The average of the weights of those 6 Casita 17' trailers is:

<span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">Axle = 2800 pounds
Hitch = 440 pounds
Total = 3240 pounds</span>
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:32 PM   #5
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My 1976 Trillium Trailer came in at 1870lbs loaded with large cooler of food and ice, a ton of tools, spare tire on bumper, bikes and bike rack, coleman stove and grill, lots of books and of course water guns.

Has fridge/furnace/stove with one propane tank and 1 battery on tongue. No water in tanks. This was weighed off the TV. Tongue weight was 185lbs - probably due to the bikes and spare tire offseting the battery and tank.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:24 PM   #6
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I weighed at the scale up the road as we left for Bandon.
We have a 1995 16’ Scamp, side bath with toilet, but without shower, water heater/gray tank or a/c.
It had a couple gallons of water in the fresh tank and about ¼ tank of propane.
We were loaded to camp with clothes, bedding, food and cooking stuff.
  • Axle = 1960
  • Tongue = 280
  • Total = 2340
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:18 AM   #7
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My sister told me that her Compact Jr came in at 1600 overall, with only 60 lb on the tongue. (!)

We had a discussion on how to improve her tongue weight--I told her to take stuff out of her car trunk and stow it in the trailer!
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Old 07-24-2008, 01:57 PM   #8
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My sister told me that her Compact Jr came in at 1600 overall, with only 60 lb on the tongue. (!)

We had a discussion on how to improve her tongue weight--I told her to take stuff out of her car trunk and stow it in the trailer!
Steve--- yeah, I think that a light tongue on a Compact is an inherent challenge with the galley and closets, etc in the rear. When I pulled my derelict in, it had about a 35# tongue weight with 1350# on the axle. To do it right is going to take some creative loading... Larry
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:46 PM   #9
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Does anyone have info on 13' burros?

Thanks!
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:20 PM   #10
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So for all of you that got weighed at the Oregon rally...
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Pamela - FYI, I think Frederick is going to post <strike>all</strike> the information from the weigh-in, [b]in generic form, when he gets back home.
I hate to be coy, But I wish to protect the privacy of the individuals who used my service.
I applaud any one of [b]them who wish to share their results here.
This is why I published an average of the weight results of the six 17' Casitas that [b]I have records for.
This group appeared to be a large enough sample to make a generic observation.

I will share here that the Oregon Rally Beach Weigh-In, I weighed a total of 16 trailers (and tow vehicles).
The breakdown is:
  • 1995 Casita Freedom 16'
  • 1975 Boler 13'
  • 2008 Escape 17' plan B
  • 1973 Hunter Compact II (13')
  • 1972 Compact Jr. (13')
  • 2001 Casita Spirit 17'
  • 2002 Casita Spirit 17'
  • 2002 Casita Spirit 17'
  • 2005 Casita Spirit 17'
  • 2008 Casita Spirit 17'
  • 2006 Casita Liberty 17'
  • 1989 Bigfoot 17.5'
  • 2008 Bigfoot 21 (R
  • 2005 Bigfoot 25 (RQ)
  • 2000 Burro 17' Widebody
  • 2008 Oliver Elite

This is the list of trailers that weighed at the beach, and I recorded on my laptop.

There was a late arrival whom I weighed at their campsite, after brunch on Sunday. Since I did not have my laptop with me, I filled out a paper copy of the form and gave it to them. I did not keep a copy of their record for myself. I do not remember what their numbers were.

They had a Burro 13' that they had owned for only 2 days.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:33 PM   #11
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Pamela, I weighed my 13' Burro last year. Total was 1200 lbs with 185 lbs on the tongue. In an effort to stay light I have a #10 lb propane tank and a series 24 battery on the tongue. My 20 watt solar panel weighs 4.4 lbs. I replaced the old fiberboard covers and cabinet doors with lighter weight 3/8 inch birch. The floor is covered with linoleum in an oak pattern and weighs less than 5 lbs. (I tore out two layers of carpet including the original stuff, about 25 lbs worth) It has no furnace, no refrigerator - just the ice box. There was no water in the tank, and it was loaded but lightly. Hope this helps you.
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:25 AM   #12
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Hi: Frederick... Did any campers require "Slim Fast"???
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:39 AM   #13
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So for all of you that got weighed at the Oregon rally, what did your weight come in at?
I am especially interested in the burros...
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I have a 1976 Neonex Boler trailer and it weighed 1450 lbs dry, prior to renovations. This trailer has the fridge, furnace, and stove combo in it.

After renovations and adding two 6 volt batteries, propane tank, electric brakes, a full 15 gallon water tank,bigger tires and an assortment of tools and camping supplies the trailer tipped the scales at just over 2000 lbs. The tongue weight came to about 12% of this total at approximately 240 lbs

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Old 07-25-2008, 08:50 AM   #14
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Steve--- yeah, I think that a light tongue on a Compact is an inherent challenge with the galley and closets, etc in the rear. When I pulled my derelict in, it had about a 35# tongue weight with 1350# on the axle. To do it right is going to take some creative loading... Larry
I did some quick calculations yesterday during a dull moment, and if she could shift 100 pounds from behind the axle to the front of the trailer, she'd be at 10% on the tongue. Or she could fill her fresh water tank and then shift 70 pounds forward. Or she could move her axle 7 inches aft.

The last one isn't very practical for her just now , but if a guy were doing a frame-up restoration, it might be something to consider.
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:18 PM   #15
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Wow! What is it with those Casita 17s -- do they have swimming pools in them now? Over 3000lbs and 440 lbs on the tongue? You gotta be -- well -- kidding me. How can something so compact be so gargatuan on the scales? Is this really typical? A friend of mine was considering a 17' Custom Deluxe with a 08 RAV4 V6 with 3500 lb tow capacity.
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:02 PM   #16
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So much for the 1500lb tow rating of the Element!
I wouldn't overly worry about it, as I doubt the Element even gives it a second thought!
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:30 PM   #17
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When we bought our '78 Trillium a few years back, we wanted to be sure of the exact weight because of our limited towing capacity at the time. As I recall, we took it to a weigh scale and with only a battery and a full propane tank (as well as a stove and fridge) but completely empty, it came in a couple of pounds over 1,000. We thought that was pretty good and we travelled light until our purchase of a minivan.

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Old 07-26-2008, 11:21 PM   #18
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I wouldn't overly worry about it, as I doubt the Element even gives it a second thought!
True. The Element handles the weight pretty well including taking off and stopping, even though the trailer brakes aren't working very well. I do plan to repair/ replace the trailer brakes (probably with a new axle) and upgrade the Element brakes with EBC pads and slotted/ cross drilled rotors.
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The average of the weights of those 6 Casita 17' trailers is:

Axle = 2800 pounds
Hitch = 440 pounds
Total = 3240 pounds
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Hi: Frederick... Did any campers require "Slim Fast"???
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If you focus only on the Hitch/Tongue weight, I gave an [b]average of the weights determined. While some were significantly under that average, a couple were equally significantly [b]OVER the average. I conferred privately with those whom I was concerned about.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:47 PM   #20
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If you focus only on the Hitch/Tongue weight, I gave an [b]average of the weights determined. While some were significantly under that average, a couple were equally significantly [b]OVER the average. I conferred privately with those whom I was concerned about.
I was wondering if the person with the 1989 Bigfoot 17.5 could please post their weight?

We just bought a 1986 Bigfoot. The NADA guestimated the weight at 1850, which is about the same as our Apache Popup was, but it has significantly more storage space! I am trying to pack it with light things (for example plastic plates instead of china ones, light fleecy blankets instead of the heavier, furry types, etc.) but I am still worried about the weight. While our Dodge Dakota has a towing capacity of about 3300 lbs., we have a bumper hitch which is rated at 2000 lbs. (according to the guy my husband bought it from, which I can't look up anywhere on the Internet). I am a little worried that even the base weight of our trailer could be over the 2000 lbs., never mind the gear!
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