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Old 11-28-2002, 12:32 PM   #15
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As Pete said - please tell us in more detail of your experience bringing a trailer south. I know others here would love to know any pros and cons. ;) Thanks!
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Old 11-28-2002, 12:39 PM   #16
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On my 1991 Scamp 13', the battery is on the tongue, just like the Trillium, with the propane tank in front of it.

Electrically, it would be better to be closer to the converter and the 12VDC distribution fuses, but that starts to add to cost (access hatch, venting, potential interior damage from leaking battery) and subtract from storage space (hard to keep your spare socks and undies out there on the tongue).

I agree that with a refrigerator, propane is best, 120VAC is next best and 12VDC is last. Again, this might be cost-based, with a no-flame reefer being less expensive to design around (venting and gas lines).

If you are always camping with hookups, an inexpensive freon-based (or whatever they use now) 120VAC apartment reefer makes more sense than a very expensive ammonia-cycle reefer. Many long-term RV park residents or Annual Migration SnowBirds in Florida keep a 120VAC only reefer out on the "porch" under the awning.

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Old 11-28-2002, 12:41 PM   #17
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Regs? What regs? We need steenking regs? More...

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Old 11-28-2002, 01:01 PM   #18
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bringing trailer back into US from Canada....

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Hi all....

I made all the appropriate calls I *thought* I needed to make before leaving. Called the DMV here in Colorado - they faxed me stuff. Their paperwork referred to a "certified VIN inspection" (must be done by the state patrol here), so I called the state patrol. They faxed me more stuff.

Dumb ol' me read through all of it, and in some places it referred to "originals" of paperwork.. but the line that required "proof of Canadian registration" *didn't* say "original" so I just had a copy from the seller. That was the only boo-boo. :bh When you go to the clerk's office, she acts like you sprouted another head because "everybody knows you need originals!!!" (then why the hell doesn't it SAY "original" on the list?)

Then, there was one line on the list of needed items that didn't pertain to trailers coming in from Canada - but it didn't say that! After I called three different clerks at the state's offices of the DMV, I finally got a clerk that had "made a note about that" in her copy of the rule book that OK'd what I was trying to do! Ugh! Before that, I even had one clerk say "if you had bought it here, you wouldn't be having these problems!" (I got words for idiots like that! - and they ain't pretty!) Morons.

Unlike Janifer, the border didn't even look at my trailer. When coming back into the US, the officer asked "did you buy anything while in Canada?" I said "yes - gas, groceries and this trailer" :)

She asked if I *wanted* to do paperwork on it (WHAT? do I *want* to?!?!?) I asked her if it was mandatory, and she said no... so why on earth would I want to then?!?!? LOL I passed on her kind offer of dealing with red tape and just trotted my new treasure across the border. Now that said, I didn't want to mess with their border paperwork because I already knew that Colorado didn't need that. Your state may differ. Just don't be cocky because I was. :lol

The stickler in getting a trailer in Canada is that Canadians don't get reamed for taxes every year like most of us do in the states. They get a one-time registration for their trailers. At least in Colorado, that is the paper you need to smoothly get your trailer registered and re-titled here. The Canadian (at least in Alberta) doesn't need that piece of paper to re-use their registration on a new trailer - they just need the plate or their operator's license. To update their registration for a new trailer is cheap, to get a new registration costs more - so they may be hesitant to part with their paperwork. My seller thought he needed that original paper, so I only got a copy - which Colorado refused to accept. Long story short here, Colorado has a process called "in leiu of bond" for trailers weighing under 2,000 pounds. Had the trailer been heavier, it would have cost $300-$500 to go through a PITA bonding process in order to get registered here without that original Canadian registration paper.

The most important thing I can stress is getting in touch with your local DMV to see what you need before you go. Then (after having a hot little piece of paper that lists everything in your hand) CALL a supervisor at your state's DMV to make sure that nothing is overlooked. Get that person's name. IF they blow it, make them register your trailer when you get back :loltu

Best I can tell, much depends on how picky your state is on

1. international purchases
2. weight of trailer
3. age of trailer

Because my trailer was light AND old (bless it's little roly-poly heart!), it really was no big deal getting the paperwork done.

The Canadian exchange rate can make the trip worth it - a good currency converter can be found at http://www.xe.com/ucc/ if you want to compare bucks to bucks.

Lastly, when I was at the state patrol here, they said that they do inspections often because there are people that are scoring great deals on used cars and such up there and re-selling them here. So the process is really no big deal if you just go through it once.

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Old 11-28-2002, 04:52 PM   #19
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One more thing ... Temp Tags

Hey, forgot to mention something.

Here in Colorado, you can't get a temp tag to put on your trailer until it is here within the state and you've had a VIN inspection on it.

Now, if you think this through, it means that unless you tote your trailer back on a trailer (ugh!) it means you're pretty much forced into driving illegally at least for part of a day in your home state.

When I confronted the State Patrol here, she said that if I had my transaction paperwork with me showing the trailer had just been purchased and that it was on it's way home to it's home county (each county has their own DMV here), that I shouldn't have to worry about getting a ticket.

My heartburn about this is that if you've bought from a private party, you won't have a plate to hang on the back end for your trip home. A “naked” trailer is probably more likely to be pulled over by the boys in blue. Ugh.

BTW, moderator, why does this program slap backslashes (“”s) before a quotation mark? Weird.

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PS: fixed by webguy
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Old 11-28-2002, 05:48 PM   #20
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Sally:wave

" is the symbol for inches. It is get interpreted by the software poorly. I use the curly quotes which are “ option-[ ” for left curly quote and “ option-shift-[ ” for left curly quote on my key board. Some people use the apostrophy symbol twice in a row ( '' ) to make the quotes that look OK.

I hope this helps.
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Old 11-28-2002, 05:55 PM   #21
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I checked in person with my DMV. we don't have long lines here like when I lived in Virgina. They said I needed one paper from the border and it could be one of these, and gave me a list on numbers. I told the border guy that I need one of these, and he filled one out for me. Sally maybe you got through quick because you didn't need the paper. :) AND didn't have three crazy women with you like I did. I think they were checking out a pickup with the dog, and just did my trailer for the heck if it because they did the picup first, and it was after I was through and getting the paper done. but really it was no big deal. I didn't have a tag either, and saw the law many places, but they never pull me over.
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Old 11-28-2002, 06:24 PM   #22
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DC Frig

One possibility is that the frig is a Norcold DC rig with a compressor. Works just like the one at home. Draws 2.5 amps 12VDC while compressor is running. MUCH less that the absorption kind that run on 120/12/LP. Good setup for those that use hookups most of the time.
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