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Old 11-05-2010, 01:33 AM   #15
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Ya its a 13 and not a 15... From what I have read on here the 15 has a different layout. Also although it may be similar to the one used at Replay Boardshop for their night security, pretty sure this is a different Boler as the guy I bought it from indicated that it was in his family for some time. Kevin.
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Old 11-05-2010, 01:38 AM   #16
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Worked on the inside for a few hours today... It is disgusting, mice found their way into the cupboards and have been living in it for who knows how long! It was sitting in a feild so I guess the mice liked the glass egg better than a hollow log The stuff on the walls is the worst possible type of any insulation I have seen in anything from boats to cars to planes to rvs, I have no idea what Vanguard was thinking when they decided on this product. It is spongey with a deep texture that is near impossible to clean. If anyone knows what to do I would appreciate it
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Old 11-05-2010, 07:03 AM   #17
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Kevin, you may be interested in reading this thread by Isaac M. He took on quite a project cleaning the interior of a Trillium... looks like he found a solution that worked for him! How much scrubbing to get that ensolite clean?
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:02 AM   #18
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One thing about Kevin's trailer though, is that the Vanguard trailers did not have Ensolite. The coating, from what I know, is some kind of an open-celled foam that was sprayed on (?). So it's much "fluffier" than Ensolite, and has more of a "popcorn" texture to the surface.

Kevin, ugh, that does not sound nice.

If the insulation is open-celled, as I suspect it might be, and there have been mice living on/in it..... well that is one of the few times I'd probably be ready to strip it out and start over. That's a bold move, for sure, so don't just run out and do it on my say-so, but.... doesn't sound good.

They do still make Ensolite, just so you know. IR Foam Specialty in Washington has it. I have had them send me samples. Also, Brad and Jenny with the "Total Boler Restoration" used it. The main difference in it compared to the usual FGRV Ensolite is that the trailer manufacturers had the companies bond a layer of "white" vinyl (or vinyl-like material) to the inside face, and that's what makes the "white" walls in our campers. What you get now is just the plain black Ensolite, and so most people paint it (doable; Brad and Jenny did that). It's a smoother texture than the traditional camper type of Ensolite, and I see that as a plus - fewer crannies to clean.

The real Ensolite is some crazy tough stuff; I'd be surprised if the "popcorn" in the Vanguard is as tough.

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PS: Thank you for confirming that your trailer is 13'

PPS: I just remembered that Roger C H posted that he knew of a source for the vinyl-coated Ensolite, but I'm not sure he identified it (I went to the link and could not find it).
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:32 AM   #19
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Kevin, your 'drug from the brambles' Boler bears a marked semblance to a Boler once used as a 'Night Guard's quarters' that was located toward the south end of Abby near/at a Skate Boarders shop !!!!
Doug is your memory working better than mine and can it come up with a name for Kevin as to who ownes the Vanguard boilers in our group?
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:22 AM   #20
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The coating, from what I know, is some kind of an open-celled foam that was sprayed on (?). So it's much "fluffier" than Ensolite, and has more of a "popcorn" texture to the surface.
I approve that.

I believe it is a bit thicker (about 3/8") than the usual ensolite); as we use the trailer at about (above and below) freezing temp, I would not want to change it for less.

What I have observed is there is no visible seams and quite a uniform thikness.... so if it is not sprayed they found a way to hide the seams REALLY welll, if it is sprayed, they had a good technique to keep the result uniform in thikness !!!!

In ours, there is a couple spot (under a window) that seems to have a had some tough treatment that the paint did not hide.

After replacing the rear window gasket (and window) my girlfdirned cleaned a patch that had some mold on it. She let it soak in a javel solution for a day before to scrub it and it went easy and nice. Now for the insulation around this patch (that also has some mold on it.... does not help with allergy and asthma....), without the possibility to let it soak we dont know how hard (for us and on it) will it be to clean it; We'll probably know this winter (Raya, I promise you to start a new thread on my project when I will start it).

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Old 11-05-2010, 10:27 AM   #21
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Thanks for the confirmation on the "popcorn" style insulation. I wonder if they installed the foam with seams (pre-made to as to have uniform thickness), and then sprayed the seamless white topping over it (so as not to have visible seams).

One note is that if one is buying new Ensolite, it is possible to get it a thicker than the original (for Ensolite) 3/16". I got samples in 3/8", and in three different densities, and from that I would say that perhaps 1/4" would be a good compromise. Thicker than the original yet still conformable. I think I felt like the middle density would be best, but I don't have the samples in hand as I type.

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Old 11-05-2010, 11:17 AM   #22
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Friend just sent me this link with a Boler that has the same insulation as mine!

Welcome to our boler site
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:12 PM   #23
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Interesting: It was originally an Ensolite Boler (1975, classic green-and-white) and someone removed the Ensolite and used spray-in insulation.

Unfortunately, none of their photos will load for me. Darn.

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Old 11-05-2010, 01:51 PM   #24
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Couple more pics... Cleaning house!

Couple more pics... Cleaning house!
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Old 11-05-2010, 01:52 PM   #25
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Could this be the original owners???

Could this be the original owners???
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Old 11-05-2010, 01:55 PM   #26
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Broken door/Missing door???

Broken door/missing door???
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Could this be the original owners???
Find it in the trailer???
Perhaps the orignal owners or their kids. It looks to me though that photo was taken in fairly recent years - based on the car in the background and the clothing.

The broken and missing parts are pretty stock items. I am assuming thats the fridge door thats missing. They normal have hindge type connections and swing up to open. You should have no problem finding replacements for them. You can check the online parts at Fraserway RV

http://www.go-rv.com/coast/do/catalo...?dealerId=1662

page 193 - Outside vent might work - check the size.
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Even more pics!

Even more pics!
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