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Old 09-11-2009, 11:37 PM   #1
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Ok after installing my new LEDS and
Getting a battery monitor.
I now know that my POWER CONVERTER is not poviding power to the battery.
Installed an ELIXER converter in 2005 went bad in 2007 they replaced it, now 2009 went bad again.
So I am wondering what everyone is using out there.
I do travel backcountry road so need something that will work well and last.
I boondock so most power comes from SOLAR Panels but like to plug in sometimes on the road and at home to chill down the fridge and keep the battery up.
So any info would help alot. Do not need a large one 20 AMPS will be fine.
THANKS DAVE
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:21 AM   #2
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:30 AM   #3
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These really work well, I use a 45 amp model with have a built in smart charger check on Ebay
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:02 PM   #4
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Looked around seems like a good converter.
Does anyone know if it has circuts for both 120 v and 12 v
The ELIXER has 120 circut brakers and 12 volt blade fuses I like this panel but do not to replace it every 2 years.
THANKS DAVE
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:00 PM   #5
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Ok after installing my new LEDS and
Getting a battery monitor.
I now know that my POWER CONVERTER is not poviding power to the battery.
Installed an ELIXER converter in 2005 went bad in 2007 they replaced it, now 2009 went bad again.
So I am wondering what everyone is using out there.
I do travel backcountry road so need something that will work well and last.
I boondock so most power comes from SOLAR Panels but like to plug in sometimes on the road and at home to chill down the fridge and keep the battery up.
So any info would help alot. Do not need a large one 20 AMPS will be fine.
THANKS DAVE
This is a tough question... Scamp used American for years with most people getting good service from them, But I know of several people who have had them fail repeatedly.
Mine is flawless after 6 seasons, but it would be tough to recommend any particular brand since failure rates depend on load, care and luck and are not very well documented.
Here are a couple of hints for long converter life though...


1] Evict the dust bunnies every couple of years!

2] Be sure that the converter is mounted in a well ventilated area.
Some sixteens have them under the side dinette with no vent. if yours is
there, simply add a vent under the seat.

3] kept the area behind the converter free from stored items that could block
ventilation and cause overheating

4] Check for fan operation regularly ..... even better and maybe overkill, add power ventilation to the compartment ( it can be 110V if you choose since the converter only works on shore power!)

As you can see , my point is that HEAT is a converter's worst enemy!
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Old 09-12-2009, 06:31 PM   #6
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Looked around seems like a good converter.
Does anyone know if it has circuts for both 120 v and 12 v
The ELIXER has 120 circut brakers and 12 volt blade fuses I ike this panel but do not to replace it every 2 years.
THANKS DAVE

I ordered a Xantex XDC-40 (40Amp) from www.bestconverter.com . These units have been used in a host of upgrades (some of which are referenced on the website). It is fan cooled (temp controlled) with front intake - exhaust, very well built, small, fairly quiet, and powerful. I know Randy will be glad to help with ideas and advice on this matter. He shows a conversion using a WFCO power converter (3 stage), but I'm not sure about the cooling Vs the Xantrex. If there's sufficient space, I would go Xantrex for the cooling aspect.
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:46 AM   #7
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if you boondock most of the time, consider...none.

Make a fuse and distribution panel for your 120v, and on the rare occasions you are plugged in, use a good battery charger for your battery, run everything else directly off the land line and your 12v stuff, off the battery.

It does not sound like from your style of camping, that a converter is even needed. Why invite more expensive systems to break down into your rig?
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:53 AM   #8
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GINA you did it again.
I think I will take the ELIXER panel that I have, remove the charging unit and make it a distribution panel only.
Pickup a Morning Star solar controller SS10-12 or SS10-10 and a new battery charger which I need around the home front anyway.
I like the idea to become more simple.
When on retirement funds this sounds like the best way.
That is why I enjoy this group so much, a group of doers.
Thanks always DAVE

ps if a PD Inteli-power 4035 comes up for sale someplace may just do it but for now this is the best way.

Next project remove the A/C do not use and can remove that much weight.
This is after getting the Solar up and running.
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if you boondock most of the time, consider...none.

Make a fuse and distribution panel for your 120v, and on the rare occasions you are plugged in, use a good battery charger for your battery, run everything else directly off the land line and your 12v stuff, off the battery.

It does not sound like from your style of camping, that a converter is even needed. Why invite more expensive systems to break down into your rig?
I like this idea.
I dry camp 90% of the time and already have a 3 stage charger (in battery box) and solar panel.

When doing this do you fuse each 12V appliance on separate fuses? If so, where can you get 12V fuse panels that you can label each circuit?
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Old 09-13-2014, 08:27 AM   #10
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This thread is sooo old that the real queston almost got lost... It's better to start a new thread.

To answer your question, the Progressive Dynamics PD-6000 series has up to 18 stations as well as blown fuse LED indicators. Here's a link:

PD6000 Series DC Power Distribution Panels
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Ok after installing my new LEDS and
Getting a battery monitor.
I now know that my POWER CONVERTER is not poviding power to the battery.
Installed an ELIXER converter in 2005 went bad in 2007 they replaced it, now 2009 went bad again.
So I am wondering what everyone is using out there.
I do travel backcountry road so need something that will work well and last.
I boondock so most power comes from SOLAR Panels but like to plug in sometimes on the road and at home to chill down the fridge and keep the battery up.
So any info would help alot. Do not need a large one 20 AMPS will be fine.
THANKS DAVE
Well just got the information I have been searching for..Looking to install LED and battery system and I got perfect way to do it now..
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if you boondock most of the time, consider...none.

Make a fuse and distribution panel for your 120v, and on the rare occasions you are plugged in, use a good battery charger for your battery, run everything else directly off the land line and your 12v stuff, off the battery.

It does not sound like from your style of camping, that a converter is even needed. Why invite more expensive systems to break down into your rig?
Gina has the right idea, in my opinion.
I didn't like the way my converter was behaving so turned it off 4 or 5 years ago. I got a batter minder to use while the trailer is in it's nest (under cover beside the house). I rely on the tow and solar while camping. We spend 3+ months every year without electricity hookups and this has worked great for us.
Also we have greatly reduced the power needs mainly by switching to LED lights.
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Well just got the information I have been searching for..Looking to install LED and battery system and I got perfect way to do it now..
FWIW: That information is 5 years old and some of the items mentioned may no longer be available.

The current weapon of choice is the Progressive Dynamics PD-4045 power center that includes AC distribution, a converter, 12 fuse stations, and a three stage smart charger for the battery.

I have installed more than six of these without problems. Usually less than $200.
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After my second converter went out (First one lasted many years, second one only a year or so), I decided to not use the built-in converter and just use a battery charger I've hard-wired into the 12 volt side. The fuse and breaker panel from the converter is still there providing overcurrent protection, but the electronic package has been disconnected.

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