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Old 08-18-2014, 11:26 AM   #29
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4. Never use off-shore mfg bearings. American made are only a few $$ more and worth it every time.

And the line about bearings running hot until they break in.... pure B.S.
If a bearing hub is ever more than "Warm" to the touch, something is wrong.....
News flash - Even American Bearing companies such as Timken and SKF are making their bearings outside of the USA these days. The difference I believe is still there though as they still have higher quality control specs.
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Old 08-18-2014, 11:36 AM   #30
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Here's the latest on my too hot to hold wheel hub on a new Scamp. I called Scamp this morning and they referred me to Dexter and gave me their number. I called Dexter and explained what happened. The Dexter Service and Warranty Mgr told me to bring it to Camping World and have it inspected and repaired and it would all be covered by warranty. Dexter also said he was doubtful that the bearings were at fault, and thought it sounded like a brake dragging or sticking problem. Either way it would be covered.

I called CW and the service mgr told me they don't have a warranty program with Dexter so I pay, and settle with Dexter afterward. That was acceptable, but the downside was CW couldn't fit me in for a week, and then it would take another week and a half to get it repaired if they had to order parts. That was a show stopper, because I have places to go and people to see before that. (Algonac Rally)

I called another local tow and hitch trailer company and they can fit me in tomorrow. I'll still have to pay and settle with Dexter afterward. Again, I'm ok with that.

If this wasn't a warranty issue, I'd do it myself. I'll let you all know what the final resolution is.

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Old 08-18-2014, 11:59 AM   #31
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I have a 2007 13' Scamp with a EZ-lube dexter axle. Do you know of issues with this model?

I found out this weekend I have been using the made in China bearings. Today, I found a place locally to buy Timken bearings. I also am going to start doing the work myself so I get comfortable with it and know how it was done.
Nope personnaly not aware of any issues with that year trailer - but that doesnt mean a thing I only asked the age of the trailer as I was wondering if it was an older trailer or a brand new trailer & if there could be something other than just a bearing issue happening.
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I have a 2007 13' Scamp with a EZ-lube dexter axle. Do you know of issues with this model?

I found out this weekend I have been using the made in China bearings. Today, I found a place locally to buy Timken bearings. I also am going to start doing the work myself so I get comfortable with it and know how it was done.
Regardless of the name on the box, look at the bearings themselves, usually on the race, to see the country of origin.

There are many large, well respected US and European companies out there selling products made in China, India or other country formerly known for shoddy goods. However, they have a reputation to uphold, so more than likely they have people on site confirming manufacturing processes and doing off the line random testing.

So, the question is not so much where was it made, but who stands behind it.

I make no claims or recommendations. For myself, I prefer to buy US made goods and support our own economy, but sometimes that is just not possible. When not, I stay with a known company.

Another quick point, 'Made in *****" may not always be a clear indicator. A couple of years ago there was a Chinese auto parts company looking to acquire a closed plant in my neck of the woods. Their expressed desire was to do final assembly of Chinese brake and clutch parts, so the label could say made in the US. As far as I know, the label would have to read, " Assembled in the US with parts manufactured in China", or some such.

The world ain't so simple anymore............
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When working I often ordered bearings 5000 at a time .Chinese bearings were considerably cheaper if you did not factor in labor ,downtime and lost production
Not all Chinese bearings are second rate but the quality and quality control was very inconsistent . I ordered 5000 sealed ball bearings for a rebuilding project and discovered after reassembling the machine that the Chinese factory failed to put any grease in half the bearings.
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News flash - Even American Bearing companies such as Timken and SKF are making their bearings outside of the USA these days. The difference I believe is still there though as they still have higher quality control specs.
Not News Here....

But, as mentioned, if the Happy Lucky Bearing Co wants to sell bearings to SKF and put the SKF name on them, they will have to maintain a higher standard than if they are being packaged with the Happy Lucky Bearing Company logo on them. There has even been suggestions made that parts than don't meet the standards of the U.S. company buying them are sent downstream to the house brands.

Now, in repairing Toyota's I only use Toyota parts because they have a higher minimum standard for parts from vendors then even other branded, but identical, parts from that same vendor.
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The Dexter axle that is on my Trillium came from the factory with bearings made in China. Raz
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The new axle that Scamp installed on my 1999 Scamp was made in China so I am assuming the wheel bearings were made in China .
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We bought our used egg last fall, and I inspected brakes and hubs soon as I could this spring. I was amazed to find different kinds of grease from side to side. Turns out it was an easy answer...

Being a devotee of Lucs Red & Tacky, I tore everything apart, bought new bearings and seals, cleaned the hubs spotless, packed the bearings, installed new cups, and figured out how to service this EZ Lube axle. Never having had one before, they are certainly different.

We've put a lot of miles on it this summer (more to come!), but have had hub (behind the cap) temps no higher than the low 120's. It means I did something right for a change.

Best of luck to ya,

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Wonder if it is something simple such as the castle nut over tightened? I was told to tighten fully then back off just a smidge in order to fully seat but not leave it over tightened.

I was also told that EZ Lube only worked correctly if the wheel was being turned as grease was being carefully pumped in. Otherwise it was pretty easy to pump grease until that spot on bearings fills up then have the excess go into the brakes.

Anyway glad you found a local shop that could get you in, hopefully it is something simple and you can get back on the road soon so I can say howdy in Algonac!
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Explain why repacking doesn't just move fresh grease through the bearing?!
You could put a glob of grease in your hand and wipe it into a fresh rag if that would make the process more satisfying!

There's a difference between cleaning and thoroughly packing a bearing, and just pumping some grease through with an ez lube axle. I certainly would never expect an ez lube axle to properly pack new, dry bearings.

By the way, if you aren't cleaning off the preservative on the new bearings before packing, you're breaking down the grease.


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Wonder if it is something simple such as the castle nut over tightened? I was told to tighten fully then back off just a smidge in order to fully seat but not leave it over tightened.

I was also told that EZ Lube only worked correctly if the wheel was being turned as grease was being carefully pumped in. Otherwise it was pretty easy to pump grease until that spot on bearings fills up then have the excess go into the brakes.

Anyway glad you found a local shop that could get you in, hopefully it is something simple and you can get back on the road soon so I can say howdy in Algonac!
The technician at Dexter said he was fairly certain that it was due to a brake malfunction. The hub stayed cool for the first 300+ miles, and didn't overheat until the 2nd day of driving and another 300 miles.

Dexter wants it checked out and they are willing to stand by it, so I'll oblige. Hoping for a quick turnaround. I'm looking forward to putting a face with all these names too, Roger.

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There's a difference between cleaning and thoroughly packing a bearing, and just pumping some grease through with an ez lube axle. I certainly would never expect an ez lube axle to properly pack new, dry bearings.

By the way, if you aren't cleaning off the preservative on the new bearings before packing, you're breaking down the grease.


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Have you followed any of my posts on the subject?
EZ-lube is a great idea and has worked well for decades, but like anything mechanical it requires understanding the system and using it correctly.

I have now hand packed my trailer bearings 3 times in over 65,000 miles and ten years...
Once at break-in, and thereafter at brake inspection/service time, so far at about 30,000 mile/four year intervals.

Just having EZ Lubes doesn't require their use.
You can choose to ignore the EZ Lube and hand pack your bearings more often, in fact you would be closer to Dexter's Schedule if you do... but then Dexter doesn't own my axle and doesn't bear the responsibility beyond the warranty, which is long past.

My Gramma raised radishes and she always said that it was ill advised to pull up the plants just to check their growth rate!
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So you're saying you would put dry bearings in, and expect the axle to pack them properly?



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