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Old 01-17-2016, 01:03 PM   #29
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We too have never been happy about the lack of ventilation at the front of our 2010 Trillium Outback so I had Escape Trailers install a small awning window at the front street side corner. We also have an opening window in the door so now we can get some cross ventilation. I removed the front bunks/goucho and converted the area to a two place dinette. I also converted the rear dinette to a permanent bed with a slide out tray underneath with two large clear plastic tubs for extras, mainly clothes.
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Old 01-17-2016, 01:59 PM   #30
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…a move we're all grateful for. A bit odd that they still supply a slider back there, having recently switched to radius jalousies on the sides... any insights on that, Floyd?

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I don't see it as odd since I prefer slider windows. If I were to order a new one it would have sliders,if possible, even if I had to provide them myself or order the trailer without windows and install my own.
I am concerned that the decision was made by the supplier though.
Really a moot point for me, shy of wreck, since I already have my trailer.

Sliders provide simplicity and a cleaner look with a less obstructed view, especially on the back where it also provides a means of egress, obviating the roof escape hatch.
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Old 01-17-2016, 03:28 PM   #31
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why ask why?

I didn't mean sliders were odd, only that the mismatched window styles seemed a little unusual. But I take it the reason was so the back window can serve as an emergency egress in builds which omit the roof hatch. Which makes some sense...

I actually agree with you about the sliders. In addition to the things you mentioned, I'm concerned the newer crank mechanisms may not be as durable as the old. My little crank out kitchen window already has a chipped plastic roller that causes it to jump its track occasionally.
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Old 01-17-2016, 05:11 PM   #32
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........... But I take it the reason was so the back window can serve as an emergency egress in builds which omit the roof hatch.

.....I'm concerned the newer crank mechanisms may not be as durable as the old. My little crank out kitchen window already has a chipped plastic roller that causes it to jump its track occasionally.

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Old 01-17-2016, 09:02 PM   #33
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So, if you are one of those blessed with an older Trillium that has full jalousies all around... be thankful, and take good care of it!
Our Trillium has 7 windows, 3 of them double size, and they all open. Now that's ventilation!
One of the main reasons we bought a 5500.
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Old 01-19-2016, 09:54 AM   #34
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Too many windows can make for a lot of condensation on a cool night and a lot of cold air cascading off the windows.
There always seems to be a compromise.
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Old 01-19-2016, 11:09 AM   #35
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Possibly. We'll see how it goes. Our Trillium was just bought last summer, is undergoing some remodeling, so we haven't used it yet.

We're used to deal with condensation in our popup. Not that we had a lot, but we always acted to minimize it. Can't imagine the trailer being any worst. If it's the case, we'll just sleep with the windows open I guess!
As for cold, I've camped in a tent in the middle of winter at -20, no heat, and I was just fine (got to have the right equipment though) !!
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:00 PM   #36
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A Maxxair powered vent would help with condensation.
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Old 01-19-2016, 01:12 PM   #37
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My scamp has the prop up windows all the way around including the door. Can't imagine those with kids the little prop arms are just begging to be run into and broken if one is not careful.


I do like the 360 degree no power consumption air conditioning, and that in moderate rain they can be left open.


Many camper brands and models have experienced feature creep. Items that used to be only on higher end models have made it down to the more basic. Anyone else recall the first time they saw factory air on a pop-up canvas sided camper? Even showers & toilets are common now on "base" models, as are microwave or at least a location for it and the TV. Expando slide out units used to be worthy of comment walking around a campground, now pretty much all the larger campers have at least one.


Not a good thing or a bad thing since those features are desired by some and complexity to be avoided by others. If buying new I would hope I can get what the heck I want for windows. Would seem a shame to run a stereo with "sounds of nature" tape since I can't open the windows and just hear it.
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Old 01-19-2016, 01:22 PM   #38
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A Maxxair powered vent would help with condensation.
I guess so, but how much of an issue is it?
My roof van has a old and inefficient noisy little fan that I intend to replace anyway. I was looking at large computer fans, they can quietly move a lot more air and probably draw less power than my tiny fan. Probably not as powerful as a Maxxair, but much cheaper.

Back to the jalousie windows, one thing I don't like about them is when you walk along the camper and they are open you have to be careful not to bang your head on the edge or corner of a pane. I suspect camping with stitches on the forehead might not be quite as fun.
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Carl raises a good and important point Do Not to put cooler with beer and/or wine in it right under a window that sticks out. If you wake up with a head ache you want it to be from having too much fun not from smacking your head going for only your second cold one.
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Old 03-17-2016, 09:36 AM   #40
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Love my jalousie windows in my 1977 Trillium! Have rarely used my Magic Fan as we get great cross ventilation - and with my original screen room attached, I can leave the front door wide open all the time. They knew how to make 'em in the old days!
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Totally agree with you, Barbara.

But today it seems inexpensive install sliding window instead of installing jalousie windows.

This is probably the competition caravans sale prices bringing us less interesting because equipment cheaper.
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:28 AM   #42
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Jalousie advantage over sliders = 2X ventilation same window area.
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