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Old 06-03-2015, 11:16 PM   #29
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I think most of us carry a few things for leveling a trailer side to side depending on the situation. I have a few 2x8 boards and a set of Lego blocks and a BAL. If it is only a little off a board usually does it, if 1 board isn't enough it's Lego time and if it's more then that I use the BAL, or have to disconnect from the trailer. The BAL is a great tool to have for leveling your trailer and built in chock lol.
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Old 06-03-2015, 11:38 PM   #30
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Byron you specifically highlighted Timberwolf's comment in regard to potential axle damage then providing a link that supposedly buttressed your position. It doesn't.

But, I do not agree with jacking on the axle damaging anything. The axle is a tube set up as a diamond shape and it seems HIGHLY unlikely it could be damaged by jacking anywhere near the ends

Of course Dexter doesn't want you to do something that is unsafe but it doesn't imply or state that damage is the reason for the warning. Again, it's a safety issue and should be respected as such. I don't disagree that it's a bad idea but there's no need for you to be insulting, jeesh.
The bent Dexter axle I helped replace had very little wall thickness surrounding the rubber pieces used for torsional damping. NOT a strong beam as it appears; you crimp a corner of the diamond and the strips won't rotate freely anymore.

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Old 06-04-2015, 12:09 AM   #31
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The better way would be to use Legos under the low wheel. Wheels can and do slip off of wood when the wood gets wet in rain.
been there done that and having the trailer slip off wet wood is not fun! Lego blocks weigh far less and take up less room than wood. Not to mention much cleaner to carry with you - just put them in the nylon zip pouch they come in.

While the BAL is nice to have if you have the room, unlike the BAL the Lego blocks are a multi use item. They are handy for other things as well. Putting under rear stabilizers & front tongue to stop then from sinking into the sand or gravel. I have used them for levelling a portable table & BQ, as well as a step into the trailer. A pack of 10 is less than $25.
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I'm with Randy---the Anderson leveller is fantastic! No more going back and forth trying to get it right....just one time going backward and it levels. Bingo. Excellent product. Used it all last summer and won't go back to wooden boards or the lego blocks.
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I've used lego blocks, boards, etc but once I tried the Anderson Leveler, I never went back. Fast & easy!
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:31 AM   #34
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I've used lego blocks, boards, etc but once I tried the Anderson Leveler, I never went back. Fast & easy!
I also like the fact that it's compact and fits nicely in the side storage compartment.
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Last night I sent Dexter Axels an email that asked: "Do you know if there is any danger to your axel if one uses the BAL wheel leveler device to level the trailer for short term camping trips (weekends, not months of storage)?"

Their reply was: "Lifting the weight of the trailer by any of the running gear suspension is not recommended."

So what is the physics of blocking one side of the trailer at a different level than the other? Should we always revert to using a frame jack to level?
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Last night I sent Dexter Axels an email that asked: "Do you know if there is any danger to your axel if one uses the BAL wheel leveler device to level the trailer for short term camping trips (weekends, not months of storage)?"

Their reply was: "Lifting the weight of the trailer by any of the running gear suspension is not recommended."

So what is the physics of blocking one side of the trailer at a different level than the other? Should we always revert to using a frame jack to level?
Think about that lawyers reply..... Doesn't the torsion axle lift the weight of the trailer whenever you drive over bumps? I'm also a big Andersen leveler fan.
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??????

What's the difference between lifting a wheel on a BAL, running it up on blocks, or towing it over a bump? The wheels are the one component that is designed to carry the full weight of the trailer. Either they misunderstood your question, or we are misunderstanding their response, I think.
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:13 AM   #38
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Quote: "Their reply was: "Lifting the weight of the trailer by any of the running gear suspension is not recommended." (italics added)


Read between the lines.... lifting by the tire IS NOT a lifting by any part of the suspension, after all, it rides 1000's on miles on those tires.


Trailer-wise there is no difference between a BAL leveler and a set of blocks or a ramp.
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I've used lego blocks, boards, etc but once I tried the Anderson Leveler, I never went back. Fast & easy!
Jon, I agree with you & the other users of the Anderson that it really does look like its the best option for levelling - can't get any easier than that!

Sadly will our falling loonie and the cost of shipping north I may have to have to wait and add it to my wish list from Santa next year and hope their elfs know about it! A bit surprised their have not been any knock offs made of it yet...
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I am not sure why no one has mentioned the obvious. I have a pair of support jacks on the back of my trailer. I drop the tongue till the coupler is almost in the dirt. I deploy the rear jacks, eyballing the slope of the ground and adjusting the jack length to compensate. If the ground is soft, then I put down some lego blocks. Then I lift the tongue till the trailer is level, front to back. I usually get it within half a bubble left to right. If not, drop the tongue and try again.
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??????

What's the difference between lifting a wheel on a BAL, running it up on blocks, or towing it over a bump? The wheels are the one component that is designed to carry the full weight of the trailer. Either they misunderstood your question, or we are misunderstanding their response, I think.
Well said!
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Why not just level with a jack?

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I am not sure why no one has mentioned the obvious. I have a pair of support jacks on the back of my trailer. I drop the tongue till the coupler is almost in the dirt. I deploy the rear jacks, eyballing the slope of the ground and adjusting the jack length to compensate. If the ground is soft, then I put down some lego blocks. Then I lift the tongue till the trailer is level, front to back. I usually get it within half a bubble left to right. If not, drop the tongue and try again.

I did that once, David, and it's the reason I realized I needed the leveling blocks. Unless both stabilizers are firmly planted on the transverse slope when you start raising the tongue (in which case there is no side-to-side leveling effect), there will be a twisting force on the frame. By most accounts and my own observation, that's not a good thing.
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