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Old 12-05-2019, 05:59 PM   #1
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WOW- What a disappointment!

We went to look at a 21' Bigfoot in The greater Seattle metro and wow what a mess it was although it is described as in good condition and the asking price if just under $16,000. I remember going through these owner opinions of their RV's when looking for a Volkswagen camper years ago. That search was a shocker and so is our search for a well maintained trailer. The one we looked at was owned by a really nice man but it was severely dirty, had suffered from a few prior leaks, the flooring was loosening up due to water and there was over an inch tall moss growing in the kitchen window along it's entire length and all the windows had been professionally re-sealed just a couple years ago. The stove top was shot, the monkey fur has black streaks throughout in the cabinets. The interior caulking was dirty and when he tried to open the window shade, the entire system that held it together on the bottom left side popped off- that is where the window leaked a couple years earlier. The 'decorative' band around the belly had shrunk back and it has not been polished or waxed in many years and all appliances where original which means probably needing replacement in the next two years or so.. I can't imagine how frustrated I would have been had I traveled more than a hundred miles to see it. Yet he had a few offers of $15,000 and did not take those. It fascinates me that anyone would pay that much for a trailer with so many issues but then again, we used to own an Airstream and most older ones have some pretty severe issues. I did get the impression these things are well built so that was great to learn because everything else out there that is not molded fiberglass appears to be without redemption. We are so done looking due to not wanting to shell out major bucks on a restoration- been there done that and have decided to love our already much loved Roadtrek even though it feels pretty small when the grandkids come in to visit. It was a quality made RV and we have had no issues with it at 86,000 miles and it is twenty five years old so I think that says a lot.
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:16 PM   #2
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:47 PM   #3
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That's a bummer. Anything will fall apart if it is not maintained or taken care of. Just think how far it would have been gone if it was a normal trailer.
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:52 PM   #4
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There are suckers out there that will buy almost anything. Congratulations for NOT being one of them!

One thing I have come to appreciate is finding out how the seller has been storing his trailer when not in use. A trailer that has been stored indoors will often be in MUCH better shape.
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Old 12-06-2019, 06:23 AM   #5
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Don't Give Up!

It’s always good to “love the one you’re with.” By most accounts those older Roadtreks are well made units. I have a newer one, a family hand-me-down on the strong Chevy 3500 chassis, but coach build quality has sadly declined. We originally thought to sell, but in the end we’ve decided to love the one we’re with, rather than the larger trailer I had my sights on.

Sounds like yours has some good years left, but eventually that aging Dodge chassis will become a travel liability, so it wouldn’t hurt to keep looking. Bigfoots are quality trailers, and in time I’m sure you can find one that’s been taken care of. With older used RV’s it’s pretty much a given you’ll have to kiss a few frogs before you find a prince.

Meantime, here’s another way to make room for grandkids (or in our case, teens)...
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Old 12-06-2019, 06:16 PM   #6
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We went to look at a 21' Bigfoot in The greater Seattle metro and wow what a mess it was although it is described as in good condition and the asking price if just under $16,000. I remember going through these owner opinions of their RV's when looking for a Volkswagen camper years ago. That search was a shocker and so is our search for a well maintained trailer. The one we looked at was owned by a really nice man but it was severely dirty, had suffered from a few prior leaks, the flooring was loosening up due to water and there was over an inch tall moss growing in the kitchen window along it's entire length and all the windows had been professionally re-sealed just a couple years ago. The stove top was shot, the monkey fur has black streaks throughout in the cabinets. The interior caulking was dirty and when he tried to open the window shade, the entire system that held it together on the bottom left side popped off- that is where the window leaked a couple years earlier. The 'decorative' band around the belly had shrunk back and it has not been polished or waxed in many years and all appliances where original which means probably needing replacement in the next two years or so.. I can't imagine how frustrated I would have been had I traveled more than a hundred miles to see it. Yet he had a few offers of $15,000 and did not take those. It fascinates me that anyone would pay that much for a trailer with so many issues but then again, we used to own an Airstream and most older ones have some pretty severe issues. I did get the impression these things are well built so that was great to learn because everything else out there that is not molded fiberglass appears to be without redemption. We are so done looking due to not wanting to shell out major bucks on a restoration- been there done that and have decided to love our already much loved Roadtrek even though it feels pretty small when the grandkids come in to visit. It was a quality made RV and we have had no issues with it at 86,000 miles and it is twenty five years old so I think that says a lot.
Some people have no pride in the things they own. They think their junk is worth a fortune. If he had any $15,000 offers he should have taken them. He is not being truthful in anything it sounds like. If your 25 year old Roadtrek is in good shape and nice then you have pride in your vehicle. There are many good trailers out there and you can find one. That is one reason to buy from a dealer. They usually are good vehicles since the dealer wants to keep a good reputation.
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Old 12-06-2019, 06:35 PM   #7
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Don't give up

The first one I saw had no floor! The second didn't exist (scammer) had great stolen photos. But the third... wow, perfect, well maintained. All I had to do was clean the carpet, sponge out the fridge. And I drove several hundred miles to see it.

If the trailer you are interested in is far away, try contacting a dealer in the area or ask someone on this site to check it out for you. Will be worth the price.

I thought I would get a Road Trek too, but concerned about how low it is to the ground.
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Old 12-07-2019, 08:03 AM   #8
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Thanks for all the responses

Our gut feeling was to walk away. I don't think the seller was dishonest. I think he used the heck out of it and has outgrown the trailer due to children growing to tall for the dinette bed. I also got the impression he was too swamped with life and being a very active parent to maintain one more thing. Because of that, trailers rot. I was told by many RV industry people that only five percent, at most, maintain their RVs. We won't buy from a dealer because in the greater Seattle metro we have yet to come across one who knows how to do a used RV inspection. I can do a better inspection than their own service department. We went to look at several high end, well built non molded fiberglass trailers about five year old at our most reputable dealers and every one had extensive damage from leaks which we pointed out, including mold and soft spots on a highly rated brand and those units are still up for sale. Several we could have put our hands through entire front ends due to window leaking dry rot issues. One had the siding pulling away from the RV and the dealership said they didn't catch it but still has not repaired it and has it up for sale. Same with all the others. we literally walked not a three year old trailer and the ceiling had detached from the frame and the salesperson said "that happens". And these were top of the line expensive RVs. All destroyed by lack of re-caulking every year whether stored under cover or not. Caulking dries and is twisted loose during transport and every owners manual I read stated it has to be checked every six months and recalled where needed or annually. People buy high end units and then think they are done. Not so and I did not know this until we ventured into trailer buying land this time due to my husband doing the maintenance and me the cleaning of ours. Well, until we find a nice one by owner, we will be happy with what we have. With regards to the Roadtrek, the Dodge Chasis we have is not the low rider that the Chevy is. we avoided that one due to clearance. I do not like the floorpan of the 21 Bigfoot with the bed n the corner but I do like the one with the settee across from the kitchen. So I posted a 'wanted to buy' ad and hopefully a nice one will come along. Thanks again.
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I believe this is TRUE: I was told by many RV industry people that only five percent, at most, maintain their RVs."

This FG forum is full of people that maintain their RVs. We are part of the 5 percenters.
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Old 12-07-2019, 10:51 AM   #10
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We had two Road Treks, a '92 Dodge, and later, an '04 Chev. Loved them both while we had them. Sold the last one last years and this year bought our Boler (Our Updates '79 Boler). Spent the summer updating it and now looking forward to this new chapter. The only thing that's constant is change...
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:09 AM   #11
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I wish you success in your search, Shangie. The front bed model seems to be less common than the rear corner bed. Since youíre looking for an older one, better to keep as many options on the table as you can.

Prices tend to be higher along the Pacific coast. You might find better deals if you extend your search into the mountain region, from ID and MT all the way down to AZ and NM. Or further if possible.

Thanks for the detailed follow-up. Just a friendly hint- a few paragraph divisions in a longer post make it easier to read.

Best wishes!
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Old 12-10-2019, 09:50 PM   #12
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Thanks for the encouragement and advice. How can we edit a post?

Hello- After reading everything we could about Bigfoot on this forum and, after an intensive travel trailer search and personally seeing newer top rated ones suffering from extensive leaking, we will make it our mission to buy a used Bigfoot.

I get that we will more than likely have to travel to do that. Or just wait patiently until an older one comes up for sale in our area. I think we could make either the 19 or the 21 work as we have carpentry skills and can widen the gaucho bed situation so long as it is long enough for a 6'2" man.

How do we edit our posts? I must be overlooking a tool on the site to do that. Thanks for any help.
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Old 12-11-2019, 07:27 AM   #13
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WOW- What a disappointment!

You have a 12 hour window after you submit a post during which you will see an edit button* at the bottom of the post. After that itís closed for editing. If you have a really good reason to change something after that, you have to contact a moderator and they can re-open it.
*If youíre using the FiberglassRV app, tap on your post and an edit option will pop up.

Iím on another forum that gives only 30 minutes to edit. Tough on this compulsive editor!!
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Old 12-17-2019, 11:49 AM   #14
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fiberglass bigfoot's or any fiberglass trailer are not the be all and end all of trailers but.....I have a 21 bigfoot and have gone from hard side apache's to casitas and now the bigfoot and would always look first at fiberglass. Like anything they will take maintain effort and you have to always follow someone else and their work. Don't jump at the first deal! That's hard to do since they come up for sale so infrequently and are usually a distance away. Mine is 20 years old and still looks great and systems perform great, but have been worked on. Stay with your bigfoot search or other fiberglass brands and keep looking in the 21 foot range. I went up from a older 16 casita and would not go back even though I had to buy a 8 cylinder truck to feel better about pulling it. Oh yeah get a weight distribution hitch.
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Hey Shangie
I purchased a 21’ Bigfoot in November here in Snohomish County.. It’s the rear bedroom style you are avoiding but I am super happy with it and I don’t think it is the same one you described above!

Anyhow, found it on Facebook Buy/Sale/Trade.

Best of luck in your search!

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