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Old 05-29-2013, 05:23 PM   #29
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Wait a minute - aren't you the scofflaw who removed this label?
I plead the Fifth!
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:00 PM   #30
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Don't spoil all the scarey fun.
Judging by the discussions about car accidents, tire blow outs, frame failures, and other misfortunes, we will be lucky to arrive at our chosen camp destinations alive. This odds of a safe journey are so low that perhaps this whole CO conversation is irrelevant.

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Old 05-29-2013, 06:32 PM   #31
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Judging by the discussions about car accidents, tire blow outs, frame failures, and other misfortunes, we will be lucky to arrive at our chosen camp destinations alive. This odds of a safe journey are so low that perhaps this whole CO conversation is irrelevant.

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Oh Geeze, don't bring Colorado into this. Enough carnage in that state, so I hear.
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I drank the fifth.
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Old 05-30-2013, 05:57 PM   #33
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This thread alone explains why I keep seeing this heater/blower ad with every page refresh, in various sizes and locations...

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Old 05-30-2013, 07:22 PM   #34
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The furnace lacks "modern" safety features such as low oxegen shut off, which also means it works at high elevations where people have had problems with newer furnaces refusing to work. They have very little to fail except cracks or rust holes, which are pretty easy to check for and the pilot themal probe.

They are simple. They don't run down the battery, are much safer than a portable heater or lantern if properly maintained.

I give them a thumbs up if inspected, maintained and you have a CO2 detector. And don't mind leaving a window or vent cracked a little for outside air. I mean the burner is small, your gas stove is probably putting more CO2 into your trailer when you make dinner.

I will say I generally have not slept with the heater on, but do fire it up in the mornings or evenings sometimes. And use an electric bookshelf heater if there is shore power.

After more than 20 years of using them I am still alive, as to CO2 induced brain damage... I'll take that 5th that was going around earlier.
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Old 05-30-2013, 07:32 PM   #35
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The furnace lacks "modern" safety features such as low oxegen shut off...
Does any furnace have a low-oxygen shutdown? This is a feature needed for unvented heaters, but I don't think an externally vented furnace needs to worry about depleting the oxygen of the outdoors.
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Old 05-30-2013, 08:07 PM   #36
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This thread alone explains why I keep seeing this heater/blower ad with every page refresh, in various sizes and locations...



That's the very blower that's been following me around at Sister Site IRV2!

In fact, it got me so rattled that I actually posted a thread there on the question:
Why does Google think I of all people actually NEED a machine to generate more hot air?


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Old 05-30-2013, 08:28 PM   #37
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Derek,
I'll PM you the contact info for Mark from Panda Propane up in Holland Landing which I understand is not too far from you. He inspects propane claims for the insurance industry, so I imagine he is up to snuff. So if you want to get the info from the horses mouth, I'd call him.
He pulled my furnace, bench tested it and told me what to fix in the piping. Pictures are in this post: Restoring Our 1972 Boler American
I've got a different gravity furnace in my Trillium. A Fromme model Number 9201F789
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I'll PM you the contact info for Mark from Panda Propane up in Holland Landing which I understand is not too far from you. He inspects propane claims for the insurance industry, so I imagine he is up to snuff. So if you want to get the info from the horses mouth, I'd call him.
He pulled my furnace, bench tested it and told me what to fix in the piping. Pictures are in this thread: Restoring Our 1972 Boler American
I've got a different gravity furnace in my Trillium. A Fromme model Number 9201F789
Thanks Roy. This is helpful. Holland Landing is definitely a manageable distance. I'm going to need someone to look over my propane system when th restoration gets that far. Right now I'm trying to decide what to do with that heater.

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The heater is a work horse. Many nights just having it on pilot takes the edge off in the boler. We've had the water freeze outside and been warm and toasty inside.

Even for the recent meet in Cobourg we only cranked the one in the Trillium up to about 2.

I wouldn't do without a heater in either trailer. Our camping season typically starts and ends with below freezing on either end.

I may add computer fans to the one in the Trillium like one I saw at the recent Eggfest. Mark charged about $95 / hour a few years back. You can save yourself a few $$ by pulling the heater and letting him do the work on the bench. The R&R is what takes the time.
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I may add computer fans to the one in the Trillium like one I saw at the recent Eggfest. .
Faggedoubout computer fans- they use electricity from the battery. Getcherself an Ecofan- they make their OWN electricity off waste heat from the heater!

And they're stone silent to boot.

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I have a blower that was actually designed for the classic Trillium gravity furnace.
Trillium Furnaces - 9-3608 Blower

But I think I like Francesca's better. No power draw. How is it installed Francesca?
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Faggedoubout computer fans- they use electricity from the battery. Getcherself an Ecofan- they make their OWN electricity off waste heat from the heater!

And they're stone silent to boot.

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Eco Fans $100-200 retail depending on model.
Computer fans and switch are laying about, solar system and battery already exist. Wallet is telling me the latter prevails.

My understanding is that computer fans have very little draw and can be run for a few hundred hours before draining a battery. Switched and selectively used - much longer. They run fairly quiet. I see the benefit for when first starting to heat the trailer. Most nights after the initial heat up it spends a lot of time on pilot Maybe someone elec-trick-ly inclined can pipe in with the details.

I took this picture for the storage drawer in the Trillium closet, you can catch a glimpse of the fan on the furnace and the inlet vent below the opening for the drawer.
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