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Old 08-07-2010, 01:02 PM   #1
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Does anyone know where to get a pair of new jalousie windows for a 70's 13' Scamp? If not is there a known practical replacement from a sceondary manufacturer?
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Old 08-08-2010, 05:47 AM   #2
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Does anyone know where to get a pair of new jalousie windows for a 70's 13' Scamp? If not is there a known practical replacement from a sceondary manufacturer?
I just recently went thru this, I did call and speak with HERR and you could buy an entire new window, but the price was okay but not what I wanted to do. I went to a local junk yard and found a scrapped RV and took the window out and scavanged the parts off it ( clips to hold windows, arms, cranks etc) the clips worked fine, just had to cut the arms a little and drill a new hole, worked, maybe you could find a local junk yard regards, suger

P.S when rooting around a junk yard, always carry spray for bees, hornets, and bang on the car, Rv before poking your head in.

You might find that pick up bed caps with windows might work too
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Old 08-08-2010, 07:28 AM   #3
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I just recently went thru this, I did call and speak with HERR and you could buy an entire new window, but the price was okay but not what I wanted to do. I went to a local junk yard and found a scrapped RV and took the window out and scavanged the parts off it ( clips to hold windows, arms, cranks etc) the clips worked fine, just had to cut the arms a little and drill a new hole, worked, maybe you could find a local junk yard regards, suger

P.S when rooting around a junk yard, always carry spray for bees, hornets, and bang on the car, Rv before poking your head in.

You might find that pick up bed caps with windows might work too
Thanks. I had found the reference to HERR in a couple of other posts and kinda figured they were cost prohibitive. Then again, i HATE bees! Guess I will have to balance that out. Thanks for your suggestions, I will let you know how it turns out.
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Old 08-08-2010, 10:06 AM   #4
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Hi Jay,

There isn't any place I know of to buy the 70's style dinette jalousie windows new anymore. They're typically the square-cornered ones (I have them in my 70's Boler), and they went out of fashion sometime in the mid-80's or so.

You can buy new jalousies right from Scamp (and they have excellent prices), but they are radius-cornered so you would have to fiberglass in the "extra" corner openings you would end up with. Also, the new style windows only have about 50% of the opening area, as only the center of the panels opens.

Now, all that said, do you have anything to work with? I mean, do the old windows exist at all? If so, there are many parts and pieces available (new, from suppliers) that might help you to rebuild them.

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Hi Jay,

There isn't any place I know of to buy the 70's style dinette jalousie windows new anymore. They're typically the square-cornered ones (I have them in my 70's Boler), and they went out of fashion sometime in the mid-80's or so.

You can buy new jalousies right from Scamp (and they have excellent prices), but they are radius-cornered so you would have to fiberglass in the "extra" corner openings you would end up with. Also, the new style windows only have about 50% of the opening area, as only the center of the panels opens.

Now, all that said, do you have anything to work with? I mean, do the old windows exist at all? If so, there are many parts and pieces available (new, from suppliers) that might help you to rebuild them.

Raya
Radius corners won't work as I am trying to keep from replacing the Elephant skin on the interior. One of the windows is original aluminum color and the other is black. Really want them to be the same. Do not want to rebuild them as I am presently rebuilding every other piece on the trailer. Saw something similar on a pick up truck cap. I will continue the search..
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hey look on ebay
i got 2 for my companion rehab
dont know what size your looking for
this guy has lots of vintage parts new
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hey look on ebay
i got 2 for my companion rehab
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Hi there do you happen to have his ebay members name??

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the windows are 18" x 15"
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Old 09-06-2010, 07:43 AM   #10
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Okay, so I went ahead and glassed in the corners and ordered the radius corner windows from Scamp. Now that they are installed I am glad I went this route. They look good and function well. Not as much open window space as the original jalousie windows, but that should be offset by the Fantastic Fan. Thanks for all you help on this.

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Old 09-06-2010, 12:05 PM   #11
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Sweet. Now we will all officially beg you for photos.

I would love to see how they look, both inside and out. Plus any photos during the process, if you happen to have any (I know it's a challenge to have the camera out when you are knee-deep in epoxy!)

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Here is the link to the photos of the jalousie window replacement. Not nearly as difficult as I thought it was going to be.

Picasa Web Albums - Josiah Blasingame... - Scamp Window ...#
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Old 09-06-2010, 06:32 PM   #13
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Thanks, Jay!

Edited to add: Aha, I see what made it "easy" --- have everything taken apart and the Scamp in a garage. But no, I'm not jealous

Would you by any chance be able to post a photo from further back, kind of like the first one but with the new windows?

Did you get an operable window for the rear? Or are you going back with the plexi/rubber-gasket one?

And what do you think of the quality of the new ones? Do they seem as rugged as the square ones?

Thanks for the photos. Your project is looking sweet!

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Old 09-06-2010, 08:45 PM   #14
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I will get some more photos of the windows inside and out. I do like the construction of the new window, and the guys at scamp are easy to deal with. Good prices and reasonable shipping. I had new lexan windows cut for the front and rear. I am going to attempt the install this week.
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Thanks, Jay, much appreciated. I'm in the process of re-conditioning my windows, and they seem to be fine, but.... it's always nice to see options. Scamp does sell the windows at a very fair price. What brand are they? Hehr?

When you post back, could you tell what attachment method they use? I have found Scamp to be pleasant, but they weren't into getting technical with me (which is fine). What I mean is, do they fasten to the shell from just the outside, like the old ones? Or are they "clamp ring" type windows? (I realize that there is something on the inside with any type of window.) Or are they fit in with a rubber seal around the outside.

I'll also be interested to hear how it goes with your end windows. Do you have a lacing tool? I have one, but have not used it, so I can't give any tips (except that there is a lacing tool )
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Jay, Nice job! just a few questons. First, How did you glass the corners, Was is just fiberglass matt? and saecond, What did you paint the outside of your Scamp with, looks good. I am thinking of new windows for the Compact Jr and think that the rounded windows wilol be the way to go. I too will be gutting it and starting over. Thanks
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I cut pieces from fiberglass panels made from mat and resin. Created those first and then used mat and resin on both inside and out to glass them in. Had to peel back the elephant skin on the interior to accomplish this. Also had to add small pieces of elephant skin to the areas where the radius window did not cover. Then went over with bondo to fill any holes before priming. Afraid I will have to wait to comment on the paint job, It was a bit of an experiment.
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The radius window attach by using a clamp ring. I used butyl putty tape around the frame prior to inserting them. The clamp ring is attached to the window proper with sheet metal screws. The holes are not pre-drilled, and some were not long enough, given the gap created by the various wall thickness. When tightened the screws can dimple the clamp ring if you are not careful. Once again, not a painfull process and well worth the effort. If I was more of a purist I might had new jalousie windows made, but I really want to get this thing finished and on the road.
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Thanks for the additional info. Your work is looking good
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Thanks for the additional info. Your work is looking good
Raya,

Do you know what size these windows from Scamp are? They are different from the ones I got from Hehr.

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