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08-17-2012, 03:31 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Jeff
Trailer: Scamp 16
Illinois
Posts: 20
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AC curiosity
This seems to be something new and unique. Its called ClimateRight Portable Tent and Small RV Air Conditioner/Heater Combo. It's 7,000 btu plus heat, which should be perfect for the 16's. It sits outside and two maybe 4" dia ducts exchange the air through a window or... But I am hopping to get confirmation of it's ability to cool. I can't find ratings or reviews yet. It's $599 at camping world
Jeff
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08-17-2012, 03:45 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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That's about the same price as a roof top unit and 2500 BTU sounds very small to cool an RV in the hot sun.
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08-17-2012, 03:58 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dennis
Trailer: Scamp 16'
Utah
Posts: 258
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I looked up the company web site. They recommend the small unit for rooms up to 350sq ft. So you would need the larger one for a 16' trailer. It is a heat pump(so won't work well in extreme cold), but doesn't take much power. One problem, per the manufacturer, it must be mounted outside. Nice idea though.
Someone once made a cabinet mounted AC/heatpump but I haven't seen one in a while.
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Dennis
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08-17-2012, 04:36 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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For the Record
A Scamp 16 is only about 90 square feet, about 7 x 13.
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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08-17-2012, 05:35 PM
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Moderator
Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
Posts: 8,222
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ClimateRight Portable Tent and Small RV Air Conditioner/Heater Combo
My Fiber Stream 16' is just painted fiberglass on the inside with no insulation. When it is over 95 degrees outside, the 5000 BTU window air conditioner that I paid $99 for can keep just the King size bed area cool, but not the kitchen or bathroom. The same air conditioner in the window of my 12' x 12' bedroom (with 9' ceilings) in my house will freeze the whole room in about 45 minutes.
I expect this unit to do about the same, or a little better under those conditions.
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08-17-2012, 06:54 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Jeff
Trailer: Scamp 16
Illinois
Posts: 20
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Well, I won't get the Scamp till mid Oct so I won't need AC till next yr. By then I have to decide; Roof mount, Closet or window. And maybe by then there will be more info on the Portable unit.
Thanks for the observations.
Jeff
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08-17-2012, 07:13 PM
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Senior Member
Name: George
Trailer: 85 Uhaul CT 13
North Carolina
Posts: 195
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Another option; I circulate with a small Fan and it stays nice and comfy!
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08-17-2012, 09:18 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dennis
Trailer: Scamp 16'
Utah
Posts: 258
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My error-I meant 350 cubic feet-not square feet!
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08-17-2012, 10:15 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jane and Greg
Trailer: 1985 Uhaul CT
South Carolina
Posts: 213
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Quote:
Originally Posted by George Lauver
Another option; I circulate with a small Fan and it stays nice and comfy!
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Is that a window air conditioner mounted under front seat? Do you have a pic of outside? We also have ct and still trying to figure out an air conditioner option that doesN't compromise the original configuration too much.
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08-18-2012, 07:13 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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350 cubic feet is even smaller than a 13' Scamp (@ abt 480 c.f.), more like a small bathroom maybe.....
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08-18-2012, 09:44 AM
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Senior Member
Name: George
Trailer: 85 Uhaul CT 13
North Carolina
Posts: 195
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Yes Jane, It's a GE 5K BTU $99 Sam's Club buy. It has a built in evaporator pan eliminating the need to install one; never a drop on the floor all season. I cut 2 deck holes, one for cold air intake and one for the hot air exhaust; I simply arrive at camp site, remove lids, and turn it on. Keeps my little uninsulated camper a comfy 72 degree's on the hotest of days using a small fan to circulate the air.
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08-18-2012, 02:24 PM
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Moderator
Trailer: U-Haul 1985
Posts: 3,436
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George, if its not too much trouble, can you explain further? I assume the deck holes are for a boat and can be purchased through marine supply company? Is there any type of ducting or air baffles inside the seat cubby area to divide intake/outake air? Does it make the seat warm or anything? This seems too ingeniously simple..... I love this idea
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08-18-2012, 03:05 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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I'm installing my 5000 BTU unit in my closet today, started yesterday. I could use some good rounds vents/ports like you have for cool air intake, but I plan on putting them underneath. Any pointers on options welcome.
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08-18-2012, 03:27 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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BTW George, I love your upholstery. I'm looking for just the right fabric and pattern before redoing all of mine. Thinking a dark greenish, subtle, traditional "oriental" paisley/floral type thing. Red/brown accents.
Sorry for the off topic.
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08-18-2012, 04:15 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pam Garlow
George, if its not too much trouble, can you explain further? I assume the deck holes are for a boat and can be purchased through marine supply company? Is there any type of ducting or air baffles inside the seat cubby area to divide intake/outake air? Does it make the seat warm or anything? This seems too ingeniously simple..... I love this idea
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I'm pretty sure there is ducting/baffles, the cool air goes in the sides and top of window units and out the back. So something would have to isolate the back of the unit from the sides, top and the back, with ducts going to each.
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08-18-2012, 04:24 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Susanne
Trailer: in the market
Arizona
Posts: 10
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like idea of mounting unit in cubby
Do you have a picture of the cubby top down showing how the unit sits in it? do you have a duct to the intake and outflow or is it a free for all? I have a unit just like yours and was considering mounting it out the back window. The window is just wide enough. Like your idea better though.
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08-18-2012, 04:42 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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I can post some pics of how I isolate mine in my closet install. Once I actually do it! But I have a plan, and hope to have it done my morning (working nights). The cubby install would be similar in theory I'm sure. You will get little to no cooling if you have a "free for all", the hot air has to exit the trailer, if you just stick the AC unit in a box with no cool air from outside and most importantly not venting the hot outside, the AC unit will actually make more heat than cold inside the trailer. Heat exchangers (an AC unit is basically a heat exchanger) have to vent the heat out of the system, it's a design fundamental.
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08-18-2012, 06:50 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Eric
Trailer: Scamp 13
Michigan
Posts: 256
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Dylan,
Check out George's album on his AC install here. You were correct that he did some work inside to get the hot air out one port and cold in the other.
His install has intrigued me. I have a scamp 13 but don't have the depth under the side of the front bench like he had so I'm thinking of using under the center of the front bench and venting entirely under the trailer with fans to ensure enough air movement to get the hot air out.
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08-18-2012, 07:37 PM
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Senior Member
Name: George
Trailer: 85 Uhaul CT 13
North Carolina
Posts: 195
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Sorry all for taking so long to get back to you. Yes, Pam it was almost too easy. Thanks Eric to pointing all to my albums. Susanne I never liked the idea of a window install because of possible leaks; nor is the Uhaul closet wide enough to hold unit therefore I chose said location. Dylan the material was bought at Hancocks off of the clearance display, the wife said with piping,thread,zippers and all about $100; of course she supplied the free labor. For the install I used 1" foam board and metal duct tape to form my hot air return to the outside and cold air vent is open to enter all intake vent on unit. I have experienced some water being blown in openings during heavy rains so I'm working on a hood to install after removing lids.
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08-19-2012, 08:22 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jane and Greg
Trailer: 1985 Uhaul CT
South Carolina
Posts: 213
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Quote:
Originally Posted by George Lauver
Another option; I circulate with a small Fan and it stays nice and comfy!
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Your post made my day, really looking forward to meeting you in oct and seeing your air conditioning mod...
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