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Old 06-24-2003, 11:58 AM   #29
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:wave John, you do know those white hard cases for the propane bottles are bottomless, right?
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Old 06-24-2003, 01:35 PM   #30
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regulators

speaking of regulators.... when did they switch from the "old" kind to the "new" kind--as I wouldn't have the faintest idea what either kind looks like... my scamp is a 1996. Michele
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Old 06-24-2003, 01:37 PM   #31
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If the valve handle is triangular, the tank is equipped with the new OPD valve.
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Old 06-24-2003, 01:38 PM   #32
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lawn chairs......

And speaking of lawn chairs.. I just bought 2 at walmart for under $8 each, that are quite lightweight, fold up to fit into storage bags that will fit nicely, either under the rear bed or dinette, or in the storage compartment under the right rear seat. Michele
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Old 06-24-2003, 04:21 PM   #33
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Originally posted by Morgan Bulger:

If the valve handle is triangular, the tank is equipped with the new OPD valve.
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Mary F,

I think Michele was asking about the regulator, not the valve.

Michele,

I think the two-stage regulator has been in use much earlier than 1996, so your Scamp probably has the two-stage.
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Old 06-24-2003, 04:33 PM   #34
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Welp, I guess you're right, Morgan, since she says, ''speaking of regulators.''

Sorry. I wasn't paying attention. (oops.) :r
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Old 06-24-2003, 05:01 PM   #35
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regulator

Thanks guys. Since it's pouring rain here right now it'll be awhile before I can go out and look, just to see what everything looks like... by the way, my son and grandson slept in the scamp the other night, so it has now been baptized with a little pee from a 5-year-old in the blackwater tank....:lol
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Old 06-24-2003, 05:03 PM   #36
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Regulator

Hi!

Here is what should look like a 2 stage regulator. I don't know much about LP regulator. But mine is not looking like that at all. Just have one "circle" instead of two like this one.

<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3ef8c9c8de3bblp-gas-regulator.jpg/>

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Old 06-24-2003, 05:14 PM   #37
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Michele:

Along with the 'new' OPD valve in the propane tank, came the male thread coupler. This doesn't require a wrench. So another way to spot the 'new' style is to look for this big fitting that you hand tighten when hooking up the cylinder for the first time. Technically this is just a new 'hose' fitting. The regulator has stayed the same thru all this OPD change. But if going from one tank (or cylinder) to two, you'll want a new automatic change-over regulator (it'll have a lever ya turn to select which tank is in use) for two tanks to replace your old single style.

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Well, technically, some tanks came with the male thread and no OPD. So the triangle valve on top the tank, and the big hand tightened nut (not the guy smoking the cigarette) are the visual clues for the 'new tanks'. :E :E

BTW folks, change to OPD. It's for everyones safety. :)


found a photo, disregard the brass 'tee' and extra hose.
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3ef8ce8634f1bCasita Mr heater valve.jpg/>
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Old 06-25-2003, 07:52 AM   #38
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So what are everyone's experiences with the automatic regulators? A friend has a cottage in BC that we occasionally stay at. There's no electricity so all the lighting, cooking, and fridge, is propane. He added a second tank a few years ago and when doing so, added an automatic switching valve. I don't know the brand. Anyway, since doing that, the lights and stove burners (fridge burner too) sort of 'cycle'. It's most noticeable in the lights. over a period of 5 seconds, they go bright, then slowly dim... It makes it really difficult to read with the lights always shooting up in brightness. When cooking on the stove, the sound of the burners is approximately the same cycling only with a pop as they get bright. It's really difficult to light the pilot on the fridge because it keeps wanting to go out.

Anyway, I didn't really associate the two until a friend told me he was having problems lighting the pilot on his fridge of his RV, and figured the fridge might be going south on him. I asked him if he had recently bought one of these automatic switching valves and he confirmed that he had. I looked at it and it looked different than the one at the cottage, but the symptom was the same. A sort of cycling. We took the valve out of the circuit and hooked straight up to a regular regulator, and everything worked normally.

Seems really potentially dangerous to use one of these valves...
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Old 06-25-2003, 08:42 AM   #39
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That automatic part must be checkin every 5 minutes to see if it should - switch. :wak. or maybe it thinks it's empty so changes then say no wait there some more propane back there and switches back.
I think a manual switch over would be better. except for the needing to re-lite after you switch, at least you would know the first tank was empty. where the automatic would hide that fact. - unless you go look - which I would forget to do. :)
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Actually, Herb, it sounds like the regulator pressure needs to be adjusted.

The second stage output should be at 11 inches of water column. Use a U-tube water manometer to monitor the pressure at the refrigerator while the stove or a couple of lights are lighted. If the pressure is fluctuating, the regulator is probably bad.

A U-tube manometer is easy to make with clear 1/2" tubing.

Removing the plastic cover (it snaps off) from the regulator should reveal a screwdriver adjustment.

I just noticed you're in AB. What I said applies to regulators here in Baja Canada. I don't know about those in the great white north.

If you're uncomfortable working with propane devices, a propane distributor should be able to adjust the regulator or check it to see if it has failed.
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